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Guaranteed Human.

Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio,

the George Washington Broadcast Center.

Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

Armstrong and Getty.

And now here's Armstrong and Getty.

Welcome to a replay of the Armstrong and Getty show.

We are on vacation, but boy, did we have some good stuff for you.

Now on with the infotainment.

You believe it will be smarter than all humans.

I believe it will reach that level, that it will be smarter than most or all humans in

most or always. Do you worry about the unknowns here? I worry a lot about the unknowns. I don't think

we can predict everything for sure, but precisely because of that, we're trying to predict everything

we can. We're thinking about the economic impacts of AI. We're thinking about the misuse. We're

thinking about losing control of the model. But if you're trying to address these unknown threats

with a very fast-moving technology, you've got to call it as you see it and you've got to be

willing to be wrong sometimes. Losing control of the model, there's so many angles to artificial intelligence that could be horrific.

Before we get to that in a second, I don't know, just coincidentally, I guess, I assume

60 minutes have been planning this conversation with Anthropic, one of your big AI corporations

for a while now.

Anthropic over the weekend said Chinese hackers used its AI in an online attack on a whole bunch of other companies.

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