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🗓️ 16 February 2021
⏱️ 75 minutes
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Center Director Bob Shrum is joined by authors Thomas Frank and Theodore R. Johnson, Strategist Patrick Griffin, and Former Congresswoman Mimi Walters to discuss how Donald Trump built the second-largest voting bloc in U.S. election history
Featuring:
Thomas Frank - Political Analyst; Author of "The People, No: A Brief History of Anti-Populism"
Patrick Griffin - Founding Partner and CEO, Merrimack Potomac + Charles (MP+C); Fall 2019 Visiting Fellow, Center for the Political Future
Theodore R. Johnson - Fellows Program Director at the Brennan Center for Justice; Author of "When the Stars Begin to Fall: Overcoming Racism and Renewing the Promise of America”
Mimi Walters - Former U.S. Representative (R-CA) and Fall 2020 Fellow, Center for the Political Future
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0:00.0 | Welcome to the Bully Pulpit from the University of Southern California Center for the Political Future. |
0:11.0 | Our podcast brings together America's top politicians, journalists, academics, and strategists from across the political spectrum for discussions on hot button issues where we respect |
0:22.0 | each other and respected truth. We hope you enjoy these conversations. |
0:29.4 | Good afternoon. I'm Bob Shrum, the director of the Center for the Political Future at USC Dornseif. |
0:35.9 | Welcome to this next program in our series, The Bulley Pulpit, a session on, |
0:41.6 | quote, the 74 million voter question. Why did Donald Trump get so many votes? Let me express our |
0:48.5 | gratitude to our guests and introduce them. Thomas Frank is a political analyst, a historian, and a writer, a founder of Baffler Magazine, |
0:57.6 | and the author of a famous and landmark book, What's the Matter with Kansas, the New York Times |
1:02.4 | bestseller? His new book, which I hope will touch on today, in fact, we will touch on it, |
1:07.4 | is entitled The People Know, a Brief History of Anti-Populism. |
1:12.3 | Theodore Johnson is a senior fellow at the Brennan Center for Justice at NYU. |
1:17.4 | Ted's work explores the role of race in politics, issue framing, and policy outcomes. |
1:23.7 | His forthcoming book is entitled, When the Stars Begin to Fall, Overcoming Racism and Renewing the Promise of America. |
1:32.6 | Pat Griffin is a strategist. He's been a fellow at the center. He's a legend in New Hampshire Republican politics. |
1:42.2 | And I'm so glad to welcome him back. Mimi Walters is a former U.S. |
1:47.1 | representative for California's 45th congressional district, a veteran of the California State |
1:52.4 | Senate and Assembly, and the former mayor of Laguna Nigel. I'm proud, too, that she was one of our |
1:57.9 | Center Fellows last semester. We're going to have a free-flowing |
2:01.2 | discussion for about 45 minutes, then a half hour of Q&A from the audience. Let me start |
2:07.1 | with this, and we can just go around. I think a lot of Democrats were shocked that 74 million |
2:13.3 | voters supported Trump after four years of what they saw as a chaotic presidency. |
2:19.2 | How much were they motivated by economic anxiety, by the changing demographics of the country, |
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