on this episode of the Ben Greenfield Fitness Podcast.

You need to take that information and make it so regular people can understand it

and make it so that you can come up with a regular understandable system.

I've been using this stuff for way before the Iron Curtain fell

and one of the reasons their athletes were so good once upon a time is because they were on Carnocene.

Carnocene does two major things.

So it's a sort of, it becomes a point system, so it becomes a game.

But the idea is just to keep people sort of, you know, under the gun of, yes, we're aging every day.

Let's fix it every day.

Hey, today's podcast is really cool.

It's with a longevity researcher named Dr. Sandra Kaufman.

She kind of flies under the radar in the anti-aging realm.

But she's pretty dank-cool and you're going to learn a ton during today's show.

Speaking of longevity, my own book, which is jam-packed with thousands of words that I wrote about longevity

and a whole lot more.

It's over 600 pages long, this huge hardcover book that's coming out in January.

You can now sign up to get notifications for when that book is going to launch.

Be the first to get your dirty little hands on it.

It is called boundless, boundless.

You can head over to boundless book boundless, two S's boundlessbook.com to be the first to get updates on my new book coming early next year.

So be sure to check that out.

Another thing regarding longevity is that when we look at a lot of these longevity hot spots like Okinawa or Bama County, many of the natural plant-based compounds that they're consuming, several of which Dr. Kaufman and Dr. Kaufman are going to do.

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