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Switched on Pop

The $50M Beat Marketplace That Broke the Billboard

Switched on Pop

Vox Media Podcast Network

Music Interviews, Music History, Music, Music Commentary

4.6 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 July 2019

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Lil Nas X licensed the beat for “Old Town Road” from an e-commerce platform. He originally bought a non-exclusive copy of the backing track for just $29.99 from a 19 year old Dutch record producer called YoungKio. And he’s not the first hitmaker to do so. Desiigner, Bryson Tiller and Queen Naija have all made hit songs from internet beats. These beats are big business. The arguable market leader, BeatStars, has paid its producers over $50M since its inception in 2008. The platform allows producers to market their beats to MCs and singers, boasting 340,000 active sellers and 1.5M tracks. BeatStars CEO Abe Batshon originally created the company to connect artists who may not live in the music industry hubs in L.A., N.Y., Nashville and Atlanta. His global ambitions were realized—producers on the platform come from all over the world. They release a steady stream of new music, marketing their original and sound-a-like beats to aspiring and emerging artists everywhere turning into ad music, Instagram stories and even Billboard Hot 100 hits. While BeatStars increases access to music, could this commoditization of music devalue the creative process? We speak with Abe as well as producers on the platform—songwriter Breana Marin and producer Dansonn—to understand how online beat selling is effecting the sound of pop music. Music Discussed:Lil Nas X - Old Town RoadBryson Tiller - Don’tYBN Nahmir - Rubbin off the PaintDesiigner - Panda’Queen Naija - MedicineCERTIBEATS - MojoBEATDEMONS - NohoBrytiago ft Bad Bunny - NETFLIXXXBreana Marin’s BeatStars pageDansonn’s BeatStars pageListen to “Bouncing On The Band Stand” by Marian Hill’s Jeremy Loyd (Clear Eyes) and Charlie (Charlatan). You can even license it for $29.99 for your own production. Vote for Switched On Pop in this year's People's Choice Podcast Awards! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary Lisa's final act now on YouTube.

0:30.0

Welcome to Switched on Pop, I'm songwriter Charlie Harding and I'm musicologist Nate Sloan.

0:39.7

So Nate, a few weeks back, we did an episode about Old Town Road.

0:44.8

What struck me after our episode was that Old Town Road was made with a purchased beat

0:51.3

from the internet.

0:52.3

Originally licensed, anybody could download it and put their own thing to it and then

0:56.8

eventually outright purchase.

1:00.8

Have you heard of Beat Stars?

1:02.6

Nope.

1:03.6

Beat Stars is just one of a number of websites where you, if you make a beat Charlie, you can

1:08.6

upload it to the site and then charge money for other people to use it.

1:13.0

Yes, yes.

1:14.0

Lil Nas X was looking for a beat when onto Beat Stars, scrolling through young Kiosbeats,

1:17.9

there are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of them.

1:21.1

He found one he liked and paid $29.99 for it, proceeded to record his vocals on top

1:30.4

of it and fast forward to now number one song in America.

1:36.5

You know, the song is still number one, by the way, as of this recording.

1:39.8

Now for its 15th week, astonishing.

1:42.2

And I looked it up and it turns out that Old Town Road isn't the only one.

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