Hi, my name is Pete Scuzaro. I want to welcome you today the Emotionally Healthy Leader Podcast.

So good to be with you. And today I'm going to share with you actually a message that I gave just last week at the commencement of Asbury Theological Seminary and a friend of mine who went to school with,

who was the president of that seminary, asked me to speak on the five hardest lessons I've learned

since graduating seminary, the five hardest lessons I've learned since graduating seminary.

So it gave me some time to reflect on that. Actually, I gave a similar talk

at the commencement of Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary, from which I graduated 15 years ago.

And it was so fascinating to step back and look at where I am today. And there were some similarities and, of course, some differences as well

as I've grown and matured a bit. But before I launch into this very timely and important message on

this podcast, I want to invite you, as I did last week, to the Emotionally Healthy Discipleship Master

Class that I'm doing in the month of June, a master class on emotionally discipleship.

The book I wrote about a year and a half ago, that really provides for pastors and leaders

the unique biblical contribution of E.H.D. to creating a culture and a church and a

discipleship and a leadership formation track that deeply transforms, not just superficially. And really,

the way I approach the class is it's four two-hour classes, and it's everything I could not include in the book itself

just because it would be a thousand pages. So get into themes like B before you do, follow the

crucified, not the Americanized Jesus, embrace God's gift of limits, et cetera, et cetera,

you know, embracing weakness and vulnerability, but trying to get at it

underneath even the surface of what's written there.

Then I actually combine it with the emotionally healthy leader book, the final four chapters

of how do you apply all this theology to planning and decision-making power and wise boundaries,

creating healthy teams and culture and transitions. And we'll do case studies in it as well as some Q&A.

So it's actually a tremendous introduction as well as a great follow-up to really the depth

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