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The Big Picture

The 25 for ’25 Selection Show Special

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.3 β€’ 5.2K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 121 minutes

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Summary

In a prerecorded taping from March of 2025, Sean and Amanda peel back the curtain to let you in as they finalize their 25 best movies of the 21st century list in real time, during what Amanda calls "a two-hour, weird psychological exercise that also could have been an email (and was).” Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Bobby Wagner Producers: Jack Sanders and Chia Hao Tat Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Sean Fennessy. I'm Amanda Dobbins. And this is sort of the big picture, a conversation show about 25 for 25.

0:22.6

This is a very special edition of this show.

0:26.2

It's really more of a meeting that we're turning into a podcast.

0:29.2

Yes.

0:29.8

As listeners of this show.

0:31.0

Everyone just turned it off.

0:32.9

No, it's an argument that we're turning into a podcast.

0:35.9

A thorough discussion of a project that is very important to this show,

0:40.8

that by the time you end up hearing this or seeing this,

0:43.9

we will have already presented to the public our definitive 25 movies for the past 25 years list,

0:51.9

25 for 25, which is a big undertaking, a big challenge for us.

0:58.3

I think it's going to, it's really, I feel, this feels like a journey into my mind, like what we're doing here.

1:02.6

Like, I'm actually a little tense.

1:04.7

I know.

1:05.8

Because of what this is?

1:06.9

So what is the nature of that?

1:08.3

Like, what is the anxiety?

1:10.3

I don't want to fail in my own, by my own

1:16.6

standard. Okay. And so I, this is a really like a confrontation of not just what the show is,

1:23.9

what we think about things collectively, how I individually process those things.

1:28.5

But also there's like an end result that you'll be able to look at and you'll be able to say like,

1:32.3

this is what those guys are.

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