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The Big Picture

The 25 Best Movies of the Century: No. 5 - 'Lady Bird’

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.35.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 November 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Sean and Amanda return to continue their yearlong project of listing the 25 best movies of the 21st century so far. Today, they discuss Greta Gerwig’s ‘Lady Bird,’ one of the greatest coming-of-age films ever made. They explain why this is the most defining millennial movie of all time, unpack its quintessential portrayal of a complicated mother-daughter dynamic, and sort through the difficult decision to choose this as the official Gerwig selection over ‘Little Women’ and ‘Frances Ha.’ Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Producer: Jack Sanders Talk to a State Farm agent today to learn how you can choose to bundle and save with the Personal Price Plan®. Like a good neighbor, State Farm is there®. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Sean Fennacy.

0:11.5

And this is 25 for 25, a big picture special conversation show about ladybird.

0:16.8

And different things can be sad.

0:18.1

It's not all war.

0:19.8

I was wondering if we should have done that where I read the Shalamee lines and you read Lady Bird's lines.

0:25.3

There are a lot of things that she says to him that I really don't want to say to you or vice versa.

0:30.3

What do you mean?

0:31.2

But I did note you filled out the shell of this outline and then I did everything else.

0:36.9

But I thought it was funny that you picked a quote from that one Chalamacea. And out of all the many quotes that you could have picked. That is actually my favorite exchange in this movie. So let's talk about Lady Bird. This is of course written and directed by Greta Gerwig. It is her solo feature directorial debut. She did co-direct a movie with Joe Swanberg in the 2000s, but Lady Bird is their big announcement as a big filmmaker. It's, of course, stars Sersher Ronan, Lori Metcalfe, our pal Tracy Letts, Lucas Hedges, Timothy Shalome, Beanie Feldstein, Stephen McKinley Henderson, Lois Smith, wonderful cast. This film premiered at the Telleride Film Festival in 2017 in a simpler time. Were you there? In movie history, I was not there.

1:14.4

That was right. wonderful cast. This film premiered at the Telly Ride Film Festival in 2017 in a simpler time.

1:12.5

Were you there? In movie history, I was not there. That was right before I started attending

1:16.1

Telluride. I'm sorry to have missed it. And this is our coming of age pick. And I'm wondering

1:25.1

if you think that that is the primary reason why we have chosen this movie about a young woman who attends Catholic high school in Sacramento, California, and then tries to figure out where her life is going from there.

1:35.4

Well, it's not our only coming of age pick. It's our most traditional, recognizable hits all the notes of teenage girl in high school dealing with high school

1:50.2

and what comes next and parents and boys and getting out of there.

1:56.7

We have plenty of movies that are also about people figuring things out at a point in their lives.

2:04.8

Yeah.

2:05.1

The handmaiden.

2:06.7

Michael Clayton is actually a coming of age movie.

2:09.0

It's just about a man who comes of age a little bit later in life and to some harsher realities than what's going on here in Lady Bird.

2:18.3

Though, again, that's a matter of perspective.

2:20.6

This has, all of the stakes are here in life.

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