The 2026 Economy: Make it Make Sense
Optimist Economy
Kathryn Anne Edwards and Robin Rauzi
4.9 • 829 Ratings
🗓️ 5 May 2026
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Summary
Consumer sentiment is in the basement. Jobs aren't being added. Prices keep climbing. GDP barely grew at the end of 2025, and a ‘meh’ 2% last quarter. Shouldn’t this be a recession? Not so far. Economist Kathryn Anne Edwards walks through the clear cause of each bad number: Tariffs explain the prices and foul mood. Mass deportations explain the jobs. The government shutdown explained last quarter. Still, knowing the passing reasons for economic pain doesn't make it hurt less. And none of it changes the long-term economic reforms we still need.
Chapters:
00:01:06 Announcements
00:01:57 Retcon: Wealth at retirement
00:03:52 Terms & Conditions: Recession, Slack, Tight, Loose, Goodflation/Badflation
00:09:10 Centerpiece: What is going on with the U.S. Economy right now? The vibe is don’t panic. But don’t not panic.
00:53:38 Executive Orders: Free work parking. Legislators do their own taxes.
00:55:00 Spiritual Sponsors: Genre-specific bookstores and great newstands
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm Frances Fry. And I'm Anne Morris. And we are the hosts of a new TED podcast called Fixable. |
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| 0:42.6 | Hello and welcome to Optimist Economy. |
| 0:44.2 | I'm economist Catherine Ann Edwards. |
| 0:46.0 | I'm editor Robin Rousey. |
| 0:48.7 | On this show, we believe the U.S. economy can be better, |
| 0:52.0 | and we talk about how to get there one problem and solution at a time. |
| 0:59.8 | Big old problem today is the economy. |
| 1:05.4 | This is our inception episode where the problem we solve in the economy is the whole economy. |
| 1:08.7 | I'd be happy if we just, we don't have to solve it. if we can just explain it, if we can just unravel the plot here, I would be happy with that. |
| 1:17.4 | A couple of announcements before we get started. First, we're going to, oh, shoot. Wait, was it clear? Today we're doing a checkup on the state of the U.S. economy. This episode is just we're not going into a big policy. |
| 1:29.6 | We're not doing history. |
| 1:30.4 | It's just what on earth is going on right now. |
| 1:33.6 | The title for this episode, |
| 1:35.0 | Working title is Make It Makes Sense. |
| 1:39.5 | So that's what we're going to do. |
| 1:40.7 | But first announcements, our next Q&A episode is coming up. |
| 1:44.8 | We'll record it in about a month. |
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