Hey there it's JVL. On the secret podcast with Sarah Longwell today, we talked about Vivek Ramaswami and how he could actually potentially impact the 2024 Republican primary dynamic.

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For what we now for,

we now four declared candidates. We have Donald Trump,

Mickey Haley, Vivk Ramaswami?

Yeah, that's the correct thing.

Who has taken the very interesting position as the man who must be elected because

because Donald Trump isn't allowed to pardon himself.

I don't know that that's true or not. Maybe it is. Maybe it's not.

And so only Vivic promisswami can be the one to pardon Trump who must be pardoned because of these witch hunts.

And so the reason you have to elect him is to because he loves Trump the most of anybody and because Trump must be protected.

So can I just say that this by Vivic Ramaswami is probably what DeSantis should have done?

Oh, 100%. Like I actually don't.

And now he can't because it will be a little bit up.

I think from the start, his like too clever by half, side long, I don't know what it likes to pay for a porn star was there he needed to

alpha this from the jump and say like when I'm president I'll pardon him

because this is a he needed to be the guy Ramaswami doesn't have the juice to do it but DeSantis would have if he had come out and been

Alpha and been like this is political persecution against Trump and when I'm president I'm

going to pardon him that would have been the play yeah because and then you do well then

Trump is forced into reacting with the you know will you accept his pardon right and

and Trump is I don't have to Yes, that is absolutely the alpha dog move.

So, AISA, I guess, is gonna run in the Liz Cheney lane.

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