The Chicago Bears Past Catcher ADPs are broken.

That's what we're going to be talking about today.

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sean segal you can find all of his great work over at rhodoviz let's jump into the discussion

let's talk about some of the other teams as well because in that range where they go you also have

you have other teammate stuff you also have debo and i yuk going in that same spot both of them and you have

dj more still going there and i alluded to this earlier but that's a really interesting one i kind of

want to jump over to the bears if that's okay with you we have dj more still going of a two three turn

but keenan allen he's going later but clearly good enough enough to influence the way that we consider DJ Moore since that trade has been made.

And I don't think Moore has fallen enough as a result.

And when I was talking to you a little bit about this before we started recording, one of the points you made is that we're probably too confident in Caleb Williams.

I actually saw a Twitter poll that was asking sort of the dynasty value of whether you would take Caleb Williams or C.J. Stroud. And I was like, are you kidding? Personally, I was just, C.J. Stroud's a hit already. Like, we know that. And he was the second overall QB. You can say that Caleb Williams is a better prospect because he was like a longer term thing in college and it's been the clear 101 for years and all of that.

But he has to do a lot to be what C.J. Stroud already is going to be.

And one of the other notes that you made when you were describing the plays that C.J. Stroud made in his rookie year that just stood out to me. He made enough of those plays to be very confident that he's going to be good. But also as you worry about sophomore slumps with a lot of players, I'm not worried about defenses are going to adjust. But I'm also like, I mean, his floor was already so high as a rookie.

Like, what are they going to do next? What is Bobby Slowick and C.J. Stroud going to come up with next? They could just take the league by storm in a year two in a way that, you know, Patrick Mahomes did in his second season or those types of things. You talked about the 5,050. So anyway, I don't think that's even really a comparison. But to talk about what we can get out of Caleb Williams, we do think he's a really strong prospect.

And we do expect him to be very, very good.

But to immediately assume that he does what C.J. Stroud did last season is a difficult call.

I talked a little bit about Stroud playing in Houston and the divisional stuff and all of that.

And I think that's interesting in this conversation as well because Caleb Williams is playing in the NFC North.

He's going to be playing outdoor games in Chicago in the late part of the season.

He's going to be playing outdoor games at Lambo probably.

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