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Witness History

The 1965 Freedom Riders of Australia

Witness History

BBC

Personal Journals, Society & Culture, History

4.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 1 August 2024

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Summary

A warning for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners - this programme contains the names of people who have died.

Nearly 60 years ago, a group of university students set out on a bus to challenge the discrimination of Australia’s indigenous people.

Led by Sydney University’s first indigenous undergraduate, Charles Perkins, they toured north-western New South Wales highlighting the public pools, cinemas, theatres and pubs in country towns where Aboriginal people were excluded or segregated from white people.

Darce Cassidy was recording the journey for a radio programme. We hear 19-year-old Brian Aarons demonstrating at a swimming pool in Moree where Aboriginal children were not normally allowed to swim.

He and Gary Williams, an indigenous student, recall the Freedom Ride to Josephine McDermott, including the moment when they made the national news by ordering a beer together in a Bowraville pub.

Eye-witness accounts brought to life by archive. Witness History is for those fascinated by the past. We take you to the events that have shaped our world through the eyes of the people who were there. For nine minutes every day, we take you back in time and all over the world, to examine wars, coups, scientific discoveries, cultural moments and much more.

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(Photo: The 1965 Freedom Riders. Brian Aarons and Gary Williams sit fifth and fourth from the right, one row from the back. Credit: Reproduced with permission of Wendy Watson-Ekstein and Ann Curthoys)

Transcript

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0:00.0

This was in a impregnable fortress. The only way you get out was in a wooden box.

0:05.0

The controversial maximum security prison impossible to escape from.

0:09.0

One of the duties of a political prisoner is the escape.

0:12.0

The IRA inmates who found a way.

0:14.4

I'm Carlo Gableer, and I'll be navigating a path through the disturbing inside story

0:21.5

of the biggest jailbreak in British and Irish history.

0:25.0

The narrative that they want is that this is a big achievement by them.

0:28.5

Escape from the maze, listen first on BBC Sounds.

0:35.0

You're listening to the Witness History Podcast from the BBC World Service,

0:42.0

with me Josephi McDermott.

0:45.0

I'm taking you back nearly 60 years to a moment when university students set out to challenge

0:50.4

the discrimination of Australia's indigenous people.

0:53.5

A warning for Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners.

0:57.3

This program contains the names of people who have died. It's February 1965 and a group of 30 undergraduates from Sydney University is traveling around Northwestern New South Wales on a bus.

1:15.0

They're highlighting the public pools, cinemas, theatres and pubs in country towns

1:21.0

where Aboriginal people are excluded or segregated from white people.

1:26.1

Darce Cassidy is recording for a radio program.

1:32.1

In a town called Marie, the students take a group of Aboriginal children to a swimming pool and ask for tickets.

1:38.0

You can hear the man selling tickets stumbling for a reason not to let them in.

1:42.6

This is what I've been waiting for half an hour, would you serve me please?

1:48.6

I want six adults and eight children's tokens.

1:51.6

If they haven't got the health regulations,

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