Hello, hello, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Fluently Forward. I'm so excited to have back on a repeat favorite guest we have back on the show today. Amy Chan. She's a relationship expert. She's an author of now two books, the founder of Breakup Boot Camp, which we talked about the last time you were on here. And she is joining us for an episode to tell us all about her new book and give some advice

on relationships. And we can take a look at celebrity relationships as well. So welcome back,

Amy. How you doing? I'm so excited to be here. I'm excited to have you back because I remember

the last time we had you on and we were catching up earlier.

I had gone through a breakup in New York. I was consuming a ton of your content. And one of the things that really drew me to you, and I'm sure you hear this all the time, but you created something called the breakup boot camp, which ever since I heard of it, I've thought it's just like the most phenomenal thing whatsoever. For anyone who didn't listen to that older episode, can you tell people about what the breakup

boot camp is and how you got started making that?

Yeah.

So it is a breakup retreat for the brokenhearted.

And it's four days in nature.

And I bring in a team of psychologists and therapists and coaches.

And we help people not just heal from the pain of breakup, but understand the patterns that are causing

certain emotional experiences to repeat so that when they go back into the real world, they don't

just get into the same type of relationship with a different

person. And now from that, I've been doing that for 10 years and I now run dating boot camps,

which is why I've written a new book on dating. I'm so excited about it because one of the things

I love about your approach is I feel like sometimes when you listen to dating coaches or people

who have advice, sometimes it's a little bit like too hard or it's a little bit too soft. And you do want that almost like clinical, logical

understanding of how things work while still understanding that it's so like nebulous and fluffy.

And checking out, which I was able to, your book, your new book, which is out on single,

How to Date Smarter and Create Love That Last. It's out on April 28th. One of the things that I loved

in the intro is you were talking about like two truths and a lie in terms of what you've done with

dating. And one of the bullets was I applied a mathematical framework to dating and I went on

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