The 1689 on Perseverance (17.1)

Doctrine and Devotion

Joe Thorn & Jimmy Fowler

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 1.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

The guys open up The 1689 Confession to chapter 17 to begin discussing the doctrine of the perseverance of the saints. How is this doctrine different from “eternal security”? What does perseverance fundamentally teach? How does a believer’s fall into sin relate to this doctrine? Plus, Jimmy doesn’t know the song, “More than Words.”

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0:00.0	Welcome to Dr and Devotion, a podcast exploring Christian faith and practice from a
0:17.9	Reformed Baptist perspective. My name is Joe Thorne, I'm the lead pastor of
0:21.8	Regemey Fellowship in St Charles Illinois. And I'm the lead pastor of Redeemer Fellowship.
0:26.0	Got your Cub's hat on?
0:27.0	Yep.
0:28.0	They planned today?
0:29.0	Yes.
0:30.0	St Louis.
0:31.0	Now I heard that the Cardinals are dropping to the bottom of their division.
0:39.7	Okay.
0:40.7	Is that right?
0:41.7	They're getting down there.
0:43.0	They're getting down.
0:44.0	Why are you laughing like, no?
0:45.0	Listen, I don't know, but I like, I'm pro Chicago.
0:48.0	I'm for Chicago, and in Chicago rivalry,
0:50.0	I hope that they are coming last
0:52.0	and they disband the team and never play again
0:54.7	That's what I hope for all non Chicago teams or at least the teams that are our rivals
0:59.9	So yeah, we've got a lot of Cardinals fans here at the church. What is that all about? Well not everyone that comes to church is saved. That's just the way we've understood you know the yeah, it's good. There's
1:10.3	There's the wheat and the chaff and they just kind of, they'll be thrown up and he'll
1:13.8	we'll figure it out.
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