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Unholy: Two Jews on the News

The 11th Plague - with Fania Oz-Salzberger & Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

Unholy Media

News, Yonit Levi, Israel, Israel Podcast, Jonathan Freedland, Middle East, Jewish, Religion & Spirituality, Jews, Society & Culture

4.7680 Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

In an episode recorded before Israel’s reported targeting of Iranian sites in the early hours of Friday morning, Yonit and Jonathan discuss the ongoing fallout from Iran’s attack on Israel six days earlier — assessing the arguments and dilemmas that have gripped Israel’s policymakers. Plus: a conversation about the future for Israelis and Palestinians when the current war in Gaza is finally over, with Israeli scholar and thinker Fania Oz-Salzberger and Palestinian writer and analyst Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib. And, of course, some thoughts for the seder table as Pesach, or Passover, approaches Follow us on Instagram and Facebook: Unholy Podcast.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

Hello there. We recorded this episode before the reports of what seems to be a limited

0:04.6

Israeli action against Iranian sites early on Friday morning. That came as Israel continues to

0:09.9

debate how best to respond to last weekend's Iranian attack on the country, the fallout from

0:14.7

which is ongoing. It means the issues Jonathan and I discuss in this week's episode are very

0:19.8

much still with us.

0:21.9

The Middle East and a watching world waits for Israel's response to Iran's attack last weekend.

0:29.2

We speak to two people, one Israeli, one Palestinian, about the day after and what comes next.

0:35.1

And with the festival of Pasach, Passover upon us,

0:39.0

we ask how it's possible

0:40.7

to celebrate freedom

0:41.8

in a time of war.

0:43.8

It's unholy.

0:44.6

I'm Jonathan Friedland

0:45.7

of The Guardian in London.

0:47.5

And I'm Unite Levy

0:48.3

of Channel 12 News in Tel Avic.

1:02.5

Thank you. It's unholy, two Jews on the news. You know, it's Pesach is upon us.

1:05.3

I think this is not the year we need to ask, Manishana, what is different this year? Usually we ask on Pesachichita what is different this year usually we ask on

1:12.6

Pesach Eve what is different this night but now the holiday of liberation from

1:18.4

slavery and can this be in any way that kind of festival of freedom what festival

1:23.7

and what freedom there are 133 Israeli hostages held by Hamas more than six months.

1:30.9

So it's really difficult. It's difficult for Israelis here. I think it's difficult for Jews

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