The $10m mind-reader who spooked Joe Rogan and Barack Obama - The Saturday Story
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🗓️ 29 November 2025
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
Oz Pearlman has guessed Joe Rogan's pin number, freaked out Barack Obama, mind-read Howard Stern’s secret afterlife password and left Richard Branson staring into the middle distance. But behind the viral moments is a former Wall Street analyst who insists there’s nothing supernatural in what he does, just psychology, pattern-spotting and a lifetime spent decoding how people think. We dive into the real tricks of the world’s most in-demand "mentalist", the habits that power his $10m career, and why he says you can learn them too.
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| 0:00.0 | From The Times and the Sunday Times, this is the story on Saturday. |
| 0:07.0 | I'm Manvien Rana. |
| 0:09.0 | He's the most famous mentalist in the world. |
| 0:20.0 | If you could have dinner with someone famous, two, one, open your eyes, think of his first |
| 0:28.6 | name, think of his last name, first name, last name. |
| 0:31.4 | Come back to me, he was confused when I asked about the last name. |
| 0:35.9 | He tried to shield it, but I saw it. |
| 0:37.4 | Why was he confused? |
| 0:38.4 | Then I asked the first name, count the letters. It was too long. Sit down if it's Alexander the Great. |
| 0:47.6 | What? Ose Palman has guessed Joe Rogan's PIN number, left Barack Obama stunned, and sent Richard Branson staring into the middle distance. |
| 0:59.9 | Viral clips, headlines, and awe follow wherever he goes. |
| 1:04.7 | Dude, I feel like I need to sit down. This is like ridiculous. |
| 1:08.6 | You feel like he's going to pass out? |
| 1:10.2 | Yeah, the chills I'm going through my body right now are out of this world. |
| 1:14.2 | But the former Wall Street analyst insists there's nothing supernatural in what he does. |
| 1:19.4 | No psychic powers, no magic, just psychology, pattern spotting, and a lifetime spent |
| 1:25.8 | decoding how people think. |
| 1:33.3 | In today's program, we dive into the real tricks of the world's most in-demand mentalist |
| 1:39.3 | and explore the habits that have powered his $10 million career and why he says anyone can learn them. |
| 1:48.1 | The story on Saturday, the world's most in-demand mentalist, written by Michael O'Dowell, read by Michaela Arnison. |
| 2:00.3 | Music Everyone knows you should be careful with your banking data these days. |
| 2:16.7 | Shreddled statements, regularly change your password, shield your cash point pin, |
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