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back from the borderline

the 1000-year-old tibetan secret that makes western psychology look like child's play

back from the borderline

mollie adler

Mental Health, Childhood Trauma, Self-improvement, Cptsd Recovery, Depth Psychology, Generational Trauma, Philosophy, Religion & Spirituality, Education, Mental Health Podcast, Culture, Trauma Healing, Spirituality, Complex Trauma, Health & Fitness, Jungian Psychology, Spirituality Podcast

4.8605 Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Discover the ancient Tibetan practice of Chöd that's revolutionizing how we approach inner work, trauma healing, and shadow integration. While Western psychology teaches you to fight your demons, this 1000-year-old wisdom tradition reveals why feeding them creates profound transformation that traditional therapy often cannot achieve.


In this deep-dive episode, we explore how Machig Labdrön, an 11th-century Tibetan yogini, developed a radical approach to psychological healing that exposes the limitations of modern therapeutic modalities. Unlike CBT, DBT, or even parts work (IFS), Chöd practice embraces the terror and otherness that most approaches attempt to eliminate. We'll uncover how Tsultrim Allione adapted these teachings for Western minds and why her "demon feeding" process succeeds where conventional therapy fails. This exploration reveals how Western psychology sanitizes spiritual practices into manageable therapeutic techniques, stripping away the very elements that make transformation possible.


We'll examine the fundamental differences between ancient wisdom traditions and contemporary psychological approaches, showing how reconnecting with bone-deep spiritual technologies can access possibilities that safe, rational methods simply cannot reach. The episode traces the lineage from charnel ground practices to modern applications, revealing why genuine healing often requires engaging directly with forces that exist beyond our conscious control.


What You'll Learn:


  • The 5-step demon feeding process that transforms your relationship to difficult emotions and destructive patterns
  • How Chöd practice connects to Kabbalistic teachings about extracting light from darkness
  • The critical differences between demon work and psychological "parts work" and why the distinction matters
  • Advanced discernment skills for working safely with challenging psychological material
  • Why the sanitization of spiritual practices in Western therapy reduces their transformative power
  • Practical techniques for approaching your shadow as teacher rather than enemy
  • When demon work is appropriate versus when additional support is needed
  • The collective dimension of personal demon work and its implications for cultural healing


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0:00.0

Long-term listeners of this podcast know that I've spent the last five years talking about the dark.

0:06.5

Now I've built a flashlight, and it's called Moods.

0:10.4

It's an instrument for serious, private inner work designed to dismantle your excuses and never

0:15.7

inflate your ego or assume the role of a sycophantic companion.

0:19.6

And the wait list is finally live.

0:21.7

Access is granted in the exact order you sign up.

0:24.9

Lock in your spot now at moods.world.

0:28.7

Welcome to the new era of inner work.

0:49.9

You're listening to the consciousnessciousness Stream, my Patreon exclusive podcast within a podcast, where I share unfiltered thoughts, deep dives, and intuitive explorations.

0:55.5

What you're about to hear is a preview of a full episode available for my premium members.

1:05.9

Welcome back, my lovely listener.

1:18.2

Today, we are getting into almost what feels like a part two of our discussion on one of my last episodes,

1:22.8

and that was essentially around shadow work.

1:28.1

And it was called, basically, is shadow work making you worse?

1:35.0

This episode was inspired by a friend of mine who I'm working on a very important project with that you are going to be hearing much more about soon.

1:38.5

And in that last episode, though, we explored the left side of the tree of life, or the Sitra Akra. Today, we are going to be

1:47.9

diving even deeper into this stuff through an ancient Tibetan practice that makes the Western

1:55.7

therapeutic world. Very, very uncomfortable. A lot of stuff has happened to shadow work since the advent of, you know,

2:04.7

modern self-help culture. Modern therapy has really turned demons into parts and shadows into

2:13.9

aspects, right? So that's why in therapeutic modalities like parts work, you'll hear,

2:19.3

work with your parts or these aspects of yourself. And it's also, modern therapy culture has

2:26.8

turned spiritual terror into just manageable psychology. And I'm here to argue that I think that we have sanitized the very

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