Yo, I'm Shay Serrano.

And I'm Brandon Jinks Jenkins.

We have a new show called No Skips with Jinks and Shay.

In it, we discuss the most unskippable albums in hip-hop history.

New episodes drop on Thursdays, only on Spotify.

All right, we are back.

You know, I'm not generally a person who gets starstruck.

In fact, during my career, the only celebrity I've ever been nervous to meet was probably

the first time I met Larry David at a party.

That generally tells you the level of celebrity that I'm interested in.

Maybe Oprah.

But when people find out you work in entertainment or entertainment journalism, first thing I often ask is, so, what's so and so like?

Is Matt Damon really that nice?

Is Ellen really that mean?

That kind of thing.

I always caveat that I don't really know these people.

You know, you see them, you have interactions with them, usually in a professional setting, sometimes a social

setting. You don't really follow them home at night. You don't know them. But if you stick around in

this business long enough, you get to know kind of the way people act, the way people are thought of.

They develop reputations. So for about 10 or 12 years, when I was an editor at the Hollywood Reporter, I was one of the hosts of a roundtable show.

You might have seen or read one of them, six stars or creators together, one table, an hour-long, moderated conversation, video, photo shoot, the whole thing.

They'd usually take a few hours to do.

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