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The Big Picture

The 10 Best Horror Movies of 2025 and ‘Black Phone 2’

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.35.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2025

⏱️ 118 minutes

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Summary

On today’s show Chris Ryan joins Sean to unpack the year 2025 in horror movies. But first, they hit a handful of movie news headlines, including rumors of a new trailer coming out in December for Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey,’ Michael Mann’s recent comments about the production of ‘Heat II,’ and Eva Victor being cast in Tony Gilroy’s ‘Behemoth!’ (2:02). They then cover Scott Derrickson’s sequel, ‘The Black Phone 2’ (starring Ethan Hawke and Mason Thames), which they both found quite disappointing (10:32). Next, they reflect on the current state of horror as a genre and explore why they feel it's in a weird place right now (26:07). Later, Chris and Sean share their favorites of the year (36:16) before Alex Ross Perry joins the show to discuss his contribution to V/H/S/Halloween. Perry talks us through his thought process and points out why finding what he personally finds scary is the most important part (1:02:50). Finally, they have an extensive conversation surrounding horror anthologies, where they identify what defines a good horror anthology and share their personal favorites (1:22:58). Host: Sean Fennessey Guests: Chris Ryan and Alex Ross Perry Producer: Jack Sanders Unlock an extra $250 at linkedin.com/thebigpicture Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

I'm Sean Fennacy.

0:10.8

This is the big picture and conversation show about horror.

0:15.8

It's October and you know what that means.

0:17.5

CR is here to talk about the scariest, most depraved, and most delightful horror movies of 2025. Later in this episode, I'll be joined by Friend of the Pod and filmmaker Alex Ross Perry. Alex, of course, a staple of our Halloween programming here on the show. Many people have been asking me, when will you have Alex back to talk about awful shit? Many people be like, who needs Chris? If you've got Alex, if you've got Tracy Letts, like, what's the problem here? No, no. No, the grabber is still at the top of the mountain here on this show. Thank you for grabbing Chris. But Alex, I will say this year, unlike previous years, he has actually contributed to horror filmmaking. He has a segment in the new VHS Halloween film. It's called Kid Print. We'll talk about his contribution. We'll talk about anthology horror movies, which is something that Chris and I also really enjoy. I think Alex has the record for the most appearances of a guest on the pod ever. I think he's in the realm of 12 or 13 at this point, which is pretty. That's awesome. Extraordinary. So Martin Scorsese challenges yours. You have a lot of work to do, sir. Okay, that'll all come up very shortly on the show. This episode is presented by LinkedIn ads. Sometimes marketing gets wasted on the wrong people. Like if you see an ad for movie-themed

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Okay, CR, before we talk about horror, was there any news that you wanted to break down? I don't never get to do news banter with you. I listen to you and Andy, and I'm like, God, just for a day, I could sit in that chair, the Greenwald seat. And watch this guy look at off-brand internet sites and scream. Let me pull up Variety.com and he ran my pod today. You wish I was looking at trades.

2:22.9

Come on, man. What are you looking at? I'm looking at all sorts of places, message boards.

2:27.3

I'm looking at dark web movie news sites. Turns out that we're going to get an Odyssey trailer in

2:33.8

December.

2:34.5

I don't know what... You learned this on a dark website? No, I'm just saying, world of real. I'm looking all around there. And that's the rumor. Is Odyssey trailer incoming? Full trailer. Christopher Nolan's next film, you famously have a fraught relationship with trailers now. You don't want to watch them. You don't want things spoiled for you.

2:50.8

I feel like with the Odyssey, it's okay.

2:52.4

Well, but why?

2:53.3

Because you're going to go, right? Why do you need to see anything? Okay. Well, then I won't watch it. I didn't want to do. I'm challenging when you've suggested on the show. I think with something like this, with no one specifically, he is so good at cutting trailers just like PTA is so good at cutting trailers Nolan specifically, he is so good at cutting trailers,

3:10.1

just like PTA is so good at cutting trailers, that they are an art unto themselves. What I don't

3:14.9

like is three and a half minute comedy trailers that give away every joke or action movie trailers

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