That Was Then

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.5 • 1.9K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2021

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Chinese espionage poses a mortal threat to the US, former counterintelligence boss Bill Evanina tells Jeanne Meserve. And author Kai Bird talks with Jeff Stein about a clandestine plot with Iran by Reagan campaign manager and future CIA Director Bill Casey to deny Jimmy Carter re-election. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Love this podcast?
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0:17.0	SpyTalk, a podcast at the intersection of intelligence,
0:20.0	foreign policy, national security,
0:23.0	and military operations with Jeff Stein and Jean Miserve.
0:31.0	Hi there. Welcome to SpyTalk. I'm Jeff Stein.
0:34.0	And I'm Jean Miserve, great to have you with us.
0:37.0	We're going to take a deep dive into intelligence history today,
0:41.0	revisiting a very controversial episode from the summer of 1980,
0:45.0	about a clandestine plot by Ronald Reagan's campaign manager, Bill Casey,
0:51.0	later to become Reagan's CIA director.
0:55.0	To persuade Iran to hold on to American hostages
0:59.0	and stymie Jimmy Carter's bid for a second term,
1:03.0	author Kai Bird has a chapter on it in his new book, The Outlier,
1:07.0	The Unfinished Presidency of Jimmy Carter.
1:10.0	The center of it is the legendary spy master, William J. Casey,
1:17.0	who became Ronald Reagan's CIA director, but in 1980 in the summer,
1:22.0	he was Reagan's campaign manager.
1:25.0	And of course, Casey is an unguided missile.
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