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🗓️ 17 September 2025
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Julia is joined by Binchtopia favorite Allegra Chapman to explore the delightful world of DOLLS! From Sonny Angels to Blythe, Madame Alexander to Barbie, Allegra lends her expertise to tell us what dolls reveal about history, their practical and symbolic purposes, and even the "misdollgyny" behind why haunted dolls always seem to be women.
Plus, Allegra's thoughts on those infamous American Girls, the childhood pastime of torturing your dolls, and the uncanny world of reborns. Digressions include the bonding experience of having curly hair, Allegra's new Julia-approved boyfriend, and finally addressing tintypegate…
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| 0:00.0 | This was an interesting question that people posed because obviously a lot of the questions are about haunting. |
| 0:05.4 | So one of the first questions was I'm noticing that a lot of these questions are bringing the conversation to a place of haunting. |
| 0:11.3 | Do you stand with this and encourage the connection to the paranormal world or see it as doll slander? |
| 0:17.2 | Do you think this is hurtful to the image of doll enthusiasts such as yourself? |
| 0:20.2 | And I'll pose something else interesting that people were saying is, is it misdalgeny, that dolls are haunted because is haunting inherently misogynistic? People were trying to think of a haunted doll franchise that's a boy. And it's like really hard to- It's usually puppets. Right. And like even Pinocchio is like a good boy. |
| 0:53.5 | Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So do you think first part of the question, how do you feel about dolls being haunted in that idea generally? Second of all, do you think it's misogynistic? Okay. That dolls are haunted. So I'll speak like my boss, who is an antique doll dealer, really like she does not like it. if you bring up the dolls being creepy. |
| 0:54.3 | Interesting. She's very offended by it. |
| 0:55.3 | I think for like older women, doll collectors, I think that they're more, like, offended by the association. And also, if you're a doll dealer, it's just simply bad for business. If people are, like, violently creeped out by your, like, haunted dolls. Yeah, absolutely. There's a market for that as well. |
| 1:11.1 | I sent you that article from the New Yorker that was like you can't advertise a doll as being creepy because there's no way to like guarantee that they are haunted. Totally. But some people like advertise a doll is like, it's haunted. Here's its story. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, there is totally a market for haunted objects. Have you yourself ever been scared of a doll? |
| 1:29.8 | No. |
| 1:30.6 | I've never been actually haunted by dolls. I find them kind of comforting. I find them as like comforting companions. There's never, and I'm very like easily startled and frightened. But like when I go to bed at night and I have all these objects surrounding me, you know, I like gall them next to my bed and a bunch of like heads floating around and clowns and stuff. I'm never like feeling watched. Right. If anything, that's like a weird kind of like companionship feeling. But you're not offended by the idea that dolls are haunted? No, because I love, uh, you love hauntings. I love haunted things. I love, I love a little drama in that way. |
| 2:01.6 | Do you believe that some dolls are haunted? |
| 2:03.8 | I think that there is something haunting about kind of the idea of like a residue of like a nostalgic and like naive and innocent residue being on an object. There's something haunting about that. |
| 2:19.8 | Like I think it haunts to look at a thing that reminds you of like a time past. I also wonder |
| 2:25.5 | if it has anything to do with the association of like how many children used to die back in the day. |
| 2:31.0 | And that like some of these dolls like ostensibly were those of dead children. |
| 2:35.7 | Totally. |
| 2:35.8 | I mean, do you think there's any connection to female dolls and them being haunted and misdolgeny, |
| 2:41.3 | as one commenter call it? |
| 2:42.9 | Well, I just wanted to quickly quote, there's a book called puppets. |
| 2:46.7 | And in the opening passage of it, the author who's a scholar, visits a puppet collector in Italy and asks the puppet collector, like, do you have any dolls? |
| 2:55.5 | And the puppet, this like Italian puppet collector, like, gets very serious. And he says, no, they are of death. They are wrong because they, there's something incongruous about the way that they're frozen in time in the stage |
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