I'm Richard Porter. I'm Johnny Smith. And this is Smith and Smith, a podcast in which two friends talk about cars and this week I've got my Range Rover.

I've got a travel rug around my shoulders. And it's from a car launch. Yeah, it's a...

It's true. A few weeks ago we had a message from somebody who went, it's a bit strange this podcast because Johnny hasn't mentioned how cold he is.

But here we are back. Rich car launch.

Honda E, there was a sort of padded, backed travel blanket with the silhouette of a Honda E on it. And I've got it over one's shoulders as we speak.

Is this some kind of tacit admission that the range on that car isn't great? So turn the heater off while you're driving.

Yeah, that's what it is. You could have a Honda E space blanket, couldn't you? It should be one of those ones at the side of the road when there's been an emergency.

Like those ones that sort of foil make you look like you look like a massive microwave or pasty or something.

Well, they make you look like you've been found in the sea with no clothes on. That's what I always do.

I don't know, a reservoir at the side of the motorway. They're like, what on earth has that person been doing?

They went out skinny dipping three days ago. They've just been found. They seem to be alive.

What? Really? In winter in the UK? Or you look like you're doing an impression of a lunar rover or satellite.

Because they're always wrapped in that stuff. It's always gold. It's because it's got it. Yes. It's reflective gold foil, isn't it? It's real gold.

Is it real gold? It is real gold. Yeah, absolutely. On all the lunar stuff. Yeah.

I love a lover. In fact, we didn't talk about that a few weeks ago. When the Mars rover sent back, I don't know, a load of TikTok videos or something from the surface of Mars.

And of course, I get so many messages about because there's the mention of rover. I'm sure you do.

And people are constantly going, what rover was on Mars? Do you think was it? I don't know. Some old faithful, SD1, 800. Was it an MG? Did it jostle in MGZT or something? MGZS.

So I get all of those. Or of course, nowadays, rappers referring to raindrovers as rovers, which I know we've touched on in a previous chat.

Which I'm still, that's not comfortable. That doesn't sit comfortably with me.

No, it doesn't, it doesn't sound right to British years. Does it, but Americans? Do you guess it does? Do you 30 or raindrover as the rover? No.

Could you ever? I'll come on to that in a minute. I was just going to say I, because speaking of those Mars rover, I've been to the place where those are made.

Have you? In California, yeah. The NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, just outside Los Angeles, which is, or the JPL, as it's called.

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