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In 1975, after Manson family member Lynette Squake's attempt to kill President Gerald Ford,

the FBI found a cache of letters in the would-be assassin's Sacramento apartment.

The return address belonged to future forensic psychologist Jeffrey Smallden's

then a young undergraduate.

A decade later after the shocking murders of two coworkers

Smallden's quest to understand the twisted minds and

motivations of killers became personal in a way it never had been before.

That beast was not me. it never had been before.

That beast was not me, documents five decades of conversations with murderers like John Wayne Gacy,

Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, serial sniper Thomas Lee Dylan, and Donald Harvey, then

thought to be the most prolific serial killer in American history.

Through letters, prison visits, and interviews,

Small then gives readers a terrifying look

into the darkest recesses of the human psyche.

The book that we're featuring this evening is That Beast was not me.

One forensic psychologist, five decades of conversations with killers.

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