Welcome to Politics by Faith. Thanks for being. It's been the beginning of a few Thanksgiving-themed

episodes. I love Thanksgiving. I love Thanksgiving because I love our pilgrims. I love our Puritans,

our ancestors, our heritage. I think about them all the time. I talk about them to my kids all

the time. Amazing people. They're very short of the story. And then there's like two or three points I want to make here and we'll do some more next week. Just the short of the story. So these pilgrims, they were called separatists. So back in England, there was the Church of England, and there were about four different groups of

people who weren't happy with the Church of England. They're on a spectrum. So the first group was like, man, we don't like this thing. And then the second group is like, we don't like a bunch of these things. And the third group was like, we don't like anything you guys do, but we're not really going to leave. And then you're the fourth group, the separatists. That's us. I said, we got to get out of here.

They were getting killed too.

So they went to Amsterdam.

I didn't know group, the separatists. That's us. I said, we got to get out of here. They were getting killed, too.

So they went to Amsterdam. I didn't know that until a couple years ago. They went to Amsterdam first.

And they were there for 12 years. And it was really tough for them to be there. And they said,

this isn't good enough either. And the reason they left is because their kids were starting to embrace the pagan

culture that was around them.

William Bradford said, kids were drawn away by evil examples into extravagant and dangerous

courses departing from their parents.

So they left to the New World.

So 1620, they got on two boats, the Mayflower and the Speedwell.

And they left their community, they left their church.

In many cases, parts of their family.

They would leave young kids behind.

The idea was that they'll come in later boats.

Maybe some elderly family members.

We're just going to go get things set up over there, and then you guys can come later.

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