From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is The Business.

Sometimes our guests have so much good stuff to say that we can't fit it all into one show.

So let out your belt a notch.

This week, we're bringing you delicious leftovers.

When human creativity is working, it's not pretentious.

It's not about money.

It's like nature.

But how do you work from being a sedressier to being a director in Chicago?

We thought we were going crazy.

I just started DMing talk show hosts and saying like,

hi, it's me, Kathy Griffin.

Can I come on your show or do you think I'm an ISIS?

Ethan Hawk tells us how he makes his eclectic project choices and reflects on two of them,

boyhood and the documentary Seymour, an introduction.

Director George Tillman Jr. explains how writing was the thing that took his career to the next level,

even though he really doesn't like doing it.

John Cho shares what his film, the thriller Searching, and the 3D Harold and Kumar movie have in common.

And finally, Kathy Griffin, on how to hustle following a career catastrophe.

But first on the news banter, some reckless early Oscar forecasting.

Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW.

Thank you. Stay tuned. It's the business from KCRW. I am joined, thankfully, after Thanksgiving by my partner in banter, Matt Bellany, of the Hollywood reporter.

Hello, Matt.

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