Thank You Charlie for Mixing Faith and Politics with Alisa Childers & Natasha Crain

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 26 September 2025

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Was Charlie Kirk's memorial service a "dangerous display of Christian Nationalism" like some media outlets claim? While Frank is on his college tour in honor of Charlie, our friends Alisa Childers and Natasha Crain step in to host the program and break down the false narratives taking place on social media and discuss how Christians can respond when accused of being “too political.” Along the way, they tackle big questions like:* How has Charlie Kirk's death impacted Alisa and Natasha on a personal and professional level?* What does it mean to be called a "Christian Nationalist"?* Is the United States headed toward a revival, or deeper division?* Should Christians stay out of politics?* Was Charlie Kirk killed for his political or Christian beliefs?* What is a critical mistake many Christians make when it comes to evaluating social issues?* Why are only Christians called out for engaging in politics?* Is polarization the real problem?* What are some marks of a true revival?This is not the time for silence but for courage and boldness! To hear more from Alisa and Natasha, check out the links below along with their UNSHAKEN conference events coming up soon with Frank in San Clemente, CA (10/25) and Dallas, TX (11/8).If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!Resources mentioned during the episode:Help Support Our Mission - https://donor.crossexamined.org/ (https://donor.crossexamined.org/)When Culture Hates You by Natasha Crain - https://a.co/d/0QEzhAT (https://a.co/d/0QEzhAT)The Natasha Crain Podcast - https://natashacrain.com/podcast/ (https://natashacrain.com/podcast/)Alisa Childers Podcast - https://alisachilders.com/podcast/ (https://alisachilders.com/podcast/)Unshaken Faith Podcast - https://bit.ly/4nVeDmO (https://bit.ly/4nVeDmO)Unshaken Conference - https://unshakenconference.com/ (https://unshakenconference.com/)

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0:00.0	Hey everyone, welcome to the I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist program.
0:07.5	I'm Alisa Childers. I'm here with Natasha Crane. And we're filling in for Frank Turrick today
0:12.2	because frankly, he's a little busy. Many of you have just heard about Frank and his ministry
0:17.4	cross-examined this week because of his many media appearances, his white, hot
0:23.7	gospel fire speech at the Charlie Kirk Memorial. And he asked Natasha and I to fill in from this
0:29.7	week. And we have a lot of thoughts. So today we're going to be talking about all the events of the past
0:36.4	week. And then ultimately, we're going to drill down
0:39.5	into what we see as some false narratives taking shape out in social media land. And they have to do
0:46.3	with politics and religion. So as could have been predicted, there are media outlets out there
0:52.4	that are now warning everyone to beware of the marriage
0:56.1	of church and state and about the dangers of Christian nationalism. We're going to talk about
1:01.1	all of that in a moment. But first, I want to get personal. I want to talk about all that we're
1:07.9	seeing, all that the Lord is doing following the horrific martyrdom of
1:12.7	Charlie Kirk. So I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that it has set off a chain reaction
1:18.4	all over the world. It has changed us. It's changed me. And I want to give some personal
1:24.4	reflections, but first, Natasha, I want to get your thoughts on how you're processing
1:28.7	all of this. What are your initial reflections? Has anything actually changed for you as a result
1:35.5	of this tragic event? Yeah, it's been a really difficult couple of weeks, and it's made me,
1:41.7	like everybody else, reflect on so many things. But I think what has really
1:45.7	come to the forefront from me when I examine myself and my own reaction to this is realizing
1:50.7	how much I personally, in my ministry and writing and speaking, I have idolized precision.
1:56.6	Yes. And I have idolized being able to make sure that every single thing that I write down on social
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