Hi, I'm Susie Larson. Here's the podcast from Middays with Susie Larson. Enjoy the conversation.

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Welcome to Middays. I'm Susie Larson.

So honored to get to spend this time with you every single day.

In fact, I look forward to bringing you daily conversations that inspire you in your faith walk,

that deepen your understanding of God's word, and that even heighten your awareness of his

amazing presence in your life. Well, my guest today asked this question, what's the most

important thing in the universe to you? What's the most important thing in the universe to you?

What more than anything else permeates your thought life, pulls on your heartstrings,

and even propels your actions. Don't fool yourself.

That supreme something, whatever it may be for you, is shaping the person that you are

becoming for better or for worse, turning you into someone radiant and full of life or making

you a dim, weightless ghost of yourself.

Thaddeus William joins me today to talk about his book, Reflect, Becoming Yourself by mirroring the greatest person in history. We'll get him on in just a moment, just real quick announcement for you here. Whenever people ask me about how to get published, I always point them to a writer's conference. I have for years. It's just the best idea to get at a writers conference where you've got editors,

agents, experts in the field where you can ask your questions. You can learn how to craft a

proposal. Well, guess what? Faith Radio, we are going on our third annual writers conference.

And it's epic. It's one of the top conferences in the nation because we're bringing in a list

editors, agents, experts. We pray that you will join us. It's coming up July 12th and 13th. We're talking about it now because there's a limited number of one-on-one appointments. And to me, that's really the goal where you get a chance to be face-to-face with an editor and agent to pitch your idea. And even if you don't have an idea, but you just want to explore the potential of taking next steps in publishing. You got to join us. The name of our conference is Northwestern Christian

Writers Conference. You'll find information on our website at my faith radio.com. Let me tell you about my guest. We'll get him on the show. Thaddeus Williams serves as assistant professor of systematic theology at Biola University. He also taught literature at Saddleback College and jurisprudence at Trinity Law School. He is a frequent speaker at churches and conferences. He resides in Orange County, California with his wife and four children. We're grateful to have them with us today. Thaddeus, welcome to the program. Thanks so much, Susie. It's a joy to be with you. Looking forward to the conversation.

What an interesting book you've written. Hey, before we dig in, though, I want to start by asking

you about scripture. Do you have either a life verse or verse you've been just pondering these days

that you can share with us? Sure. I'd say a big one lately for me has been Psalm 115. If I could just read a few verses, verses four to, let's see, seven here. It's

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