This is an IHeart podcast. So, Ryder, back in the day, you and I used to have on-running conversations about different, I mean, philosophies or walks of life, whatever you want to talk about it, you and I would find a conversation about it.

And there was one that you and I used to constantly go back to, which was fate versus coincidence. Okay. And fate is something that you roundly rejected back in the day. It was, everything's coincidence. Now, so let's pretend that's true and there is no fate. Back in the day, back in the day, he's, okay.

Yeah, it's true.

But let's just say that it is all coincidence.

I would then ask a sub-question, which is, are there degrees of coincidence?

Is there a big coincidence and a small coincidence, or are there just coincidence?

Oh, man, do we really want to get into this?

Well, I'm going to tell you why, because something pretty out amazing happens to me.

I don't, I don't, look, do you, do I believe that, that there's an order to the universe,

potentially?

Yes, but it's a material order. So, you know,

there's complexity. So things happen for reasons, but those reasons can be explored by

investigating science and evidence and, right? And it's so complex that it's outside of the

grasp of our minds most of the time. But again, would you, would, would you say like somebody who flies to, you know, from their home in California to Africa and is on safari and in the middle of safari, they meet their childhood friend that they haven't seen forever that they grew up on the street next to you? Is that the same kind of coincidence as, hey, I'm standing next to some guy on a train and we're both drinking the same soda.

I mean, are both equal just coincidences and that one is not bigger than the other? Right. Yeah. Wow. Okay. So I believe in at the very least, I believe in fate, but I also believe in degrees of coincidence. Okay. So here's what happened to me. and when I tell the story, it's to me, some people are like, okay, and I'm like, this is nuts to me.

So. happened to me. And when I tell this story, it's to me, some people are like, okay, and I'm like, this is nuts to me. So I'm home at the time to see my parents. And I always, because I don't like flying and I, every time there's a flight to another flight, I don't like to connect because it's just one more chance to have a delayed flight or they're going to lose your bag or something. So I, and there's no direct flights in Hartford. So I always fly from

L.A. to Boston and I rent a car and I drive. And one of my favorite things has become my drive from Boston. It takes about an hour and 45 minutes. I usually get there. I'm in there by myself in the afternoon. And then I take a very early flight home. I usually get like a 6 a.m.

flight. So I leave my house in Connecticut like 2 o'clock in the morning, 2.30 in the morning.

And. afternoon. And then I take a very early flight home. I usually get like a 6 a.m. flight. So I leave my house in Connecticut like 2 o'clock in the morning, 2.30 in the

morning. And that drive has become just kind of a magical time for me. It's dark. There's

nobody on the road. I'm completely by myself. I'm listening to whatever I want. It's great.

So as everybody else knows, we have a lot of podcasts to do,

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