And the Welcome to the conversations that matter podcast. I'm your host John Harris. It is a beautiful day in upstate New York. It could not ask for a better day as far as the weather and I just came in actually from weed whacking. I've been researching some things this morning and I just I couldn't do it they have a window here and I kept

looking outside and I spent like two hours trying to find a source I couldn't find I

said that's it I'm going outside I'm doing something out there and while I was

out there I put on my headphones and my

earmuffs and I had a previous lead this morning someone reached out to me and

say did you see what TGC put out there the Gospel Coalition and I hadn't and it was a debate

on the woke church in fact the question being debated was is woke church a

stepping stone to theological compromise.

And I had put out a video.

I don't think I referenced it in the podcast.

I just talked about it.

Maybe I did talk about it in the podcast.

I teased this video from 80 Robles,

where he makes some predictions about this debate

series that Gospel Coalition is putting on and he said that basically he thinks that these

debates in general aren't not going to be framed properly and I think he was right on with this one I mean that's not even a great question the question is is woke church a compromise not whether it's a stepping stone so that kind of even cushions it a bit. It makes it it's softer.

So it's not as bad if it's just a stepping stone. Secondly, he said though that he thought that the

debates weren't going to be serious and I think that's true this one

definitely came across to me is not a serious debate I don't even think it qualifies as

debate there there wasn't a debate format you had two people making a presentation and

then you have someone who's just asking them questions.

There's not an opportunity for rebuttal and asking questions of one another in cross-examination.

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