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The WallBuilders Show

Texas Textbooks Determine the Direction of the Nation, Part 2 - with Dr. Julie Pickren

The WallBuilders Show

Tim Barton, David Barton & Rick Green

Wallbuilders Show, Education, Constitutional, Church, Christianity, History, Conservative, America, Family, Christian, Biblical, Religion & Spirituality, Wallbuilders.show, Government, News, Politics

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 April 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

One vote can decide whether a generation learns a clear, content-rich story of American history or a vague set of standards that can be stretched to fit almost anything. Rick Green sits down with Julie Pickering from the Texas State Board of Education, with David Barton adding long-range context on why Texas standards don’t stay in Texas. When TEKS change in a major state, textbook publishers and other states follow, which is why this June meeting matters nationwide. Julie walks us through h...

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0:00.0

You find your way to the intersection of faith and culture.

0:09.3

It's The Wall Builders Show, taken on the hot topics of the day from a biblical, historical, and constitutional perspective.

0:14.6

And the hot topic we're taking on today is picking up where we left off yesterday with Julie Pickering on the State Board of Education.

0:20.8

The topic,

0:21.2

of course, our textbooks, our reading list, what are the kids in America actually learning in the

0:26.1

classroom, specifically in Texas, but it impacts everyone else. Rick Green here with David Barton.

0:31.2

Tim's not with us today. Well, he is. He's with David all over Washington, D.C., and I couldn't

0:35.0

pull them both away. We've got pastors in from all over the

0:38.0

country yesterday, giving tours of monuments and all kinds of other cool things. Got a bunch of congressmen going in and briefing them. And actually, before we get to Julie, David, you've been doing these pastors briefings for, what, 20, 25 years now, where you take pastors to D.C. and they actually get to do a late night tour of the Capitol. They get to hear from all kinds of

0:56.6

amazing members of Congress that they don't ever see on TV. These are godly men and women serving. It's a fantastic experience for pastors. Give us a little bit about that before we go to Julie. Yeah, it is a great experience, Rick. And there's a lot of stuff that they get to see behind the scenes. Too many people, if you ask them to name congressmen that they know, they're going to name five or six that's on TV, and that's about as far as it goes. Well, there's 435 here, and there are a ton of people who are really grounded, constitutionally grounded, biblically grounded in so many areas that you just never see on the news. And it is so encouraging to be able to come up here and we'll have probably a dozen congressmen speak to them one at a time. And we don't tell the congressman what to say or ask them what to say. They just come out and share, hey, here's what's going on now or here's my heart or here's something really big you need to know about. And it just always blows these pastures away to see behind the curtain of what's going on

1:46.9

and not to have to have it filtered by mainstream media.

1:50.9

And so it's an aspiring time.

1:53.4

And when you get to walk into the Capitol after night without the 10,000 visitors

1:56.9

a day that's there, you know, we get to go through the various rooms

1:59.9

because congressmen will allow us to go in there. And we get to go through the various rooms because congressmen will

2:01.2

allow us to go in there. And we can show the artifacts that happened in the artifacts of things

2:06.4

that happened in that room historically 200 years ago, 150 years ago, whatever. It's just

2:11.4

transformational. So it really is quite an opportunity for these pastors for sure. Well, this one obviously already

2:18.7

happening, but we do another one in September, I think it is, but the dates are on the website

2:22.2

at wallbuilders.com. Go to wallbuilders.com and start telling your pastor about it now so they can

2:27.3

start planning for the fall. I promise you for your pastor and their spouse, it's an incredible,

2:32.7

incredible trip.

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