And this is of course the Rick is sorry again coming down in three two one activate program

No, with all due respect the fact is we had four dead Americans was it because of a

protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they go

kill some Americans what difference at this point does it make?

Uh, this is nonsense.

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Gentlemen, how are you on this fine spring day?

Well, James, I don't really want to, I'm not as comfortable talking about this.

You don't know.

I don't know. I think I'm I'm neutral. I'm put it this way. I have I live in Hollywood. I've worked in Hollywood. I have a complicated tax situation and I'd like to say that as I'm going to be here of this

podcast more as an observer that as a participant just want to say that I'll let

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