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Imagine there's no heaven.

It's easy if you try.

No hell below us, above us only sky.

Imagine all the people living for today. Welcome to Free Thought Radio.

I'm Annie Laurie Gaylor.

I'm co-president of the Freedom from Religion Foundation, which is producing this podcast and broadcast.

My co-host, Dan Barker, isn't here today. Instead, he's in Ontario, Canada, to participate in a debate about the purpose of life with a former Muslim-turned Christian apologist, and next week he will tell us how that debate went.

This is the April 16th, 2020. I'm Cheryl Hill, Wynn, by the way. This is the April 16th, 2020, I'm Sheryl Hill, Wynn, by the way.

This is the April 16th, 2026 episode being recorded in the Stephen Ool, friendly atheist studio

in Freethought Hall, which is FFRF's office in Madison, Wisconsin. And today is National

Ask an Atheist Day. Our producer is looking to answer

listener questions on a future show, whether this radio show or our YouTube program, Secular Spotlight.

So, if you have any burning questions for FFRF or nonbelievers in general, just email them to Secular Spotlight at

FFRF.org. That's secular spotlight at fFRF.org. And by the way, Askenathist

Day was officially proclaimed by the Secular Student Alliance, and it's a bit of a roving date,

and the idea is that secular

students can table on campuses, and it's kind of a nice way to combat evangelical predators on

campus, like Turning Point USA. And did I mention that Free Thought Radio is the weekly production

of the Freedom from Religion Foundation.

FFFRF works both to enforce the constitutional separation between religion and government,

dictated by our secular and entirely godless U.S. Constitution, and one cannot repeat that

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