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🗓️ 23 April 2020
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One of God’s greatest gifts is the healing we can find in forgiveness, whether we’re learning to to love and accept others or even ourselves. April 19, 2020 marked the 25th anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing, when Bud Welch’s 23-year-old daughter Julie was tragically killed in the blast. Bud shares how he turned his grief into compassion for Bill McVeigh, father of the bomber Timothy McVeigh. Bud is joined by Jeanne Bishop, who recounts how these two fathers shared losses and became the unlikeliest of friends in her new book Grace from the Rubble. After years of struggling to find her way as a young adult, Christine Carter found herself trying to fill the hole in her heart with food. After a heartbreaking encounter with a family member, Christine embarked on a journey to learn how to change from the inside out. Along the way, Christine learned God loved her just as she was, she began to love herself too—and now she’s striving to help others learn to love themselves and cultivate a healthier mindset and lifestyle in her brand-new book Weight-Loss Hero.
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Jesus Calling devotional
Jesus Always devotional
Jeanne Bishop, Author
Change of Heart book
Grace From the Rubble book
Bud Welch
25th anniversary of the Oklahoma City Bombing
Timothy McVeigh
Marquette University
St. Charles Borromeo Church in Oklahoma City
Communicant at her Catholic Church,
Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building, Oklahoma City OK
Christine Carter, founder and CEO of Weight Loss Hero
Weight-Loss Hero: Transform Your Mind and Body with a Healthy Keto Lifestyle
Mayo Clinic, weight loss surgery
Angela Braniff, founder of the popular YouTube channel This Gathered Nest
Love Without Borders book
Interview Quotes:
“What I learned that day about Bill McVeigh was that he and I had the exact same thing in common: we had both buried our children.” - Bud Welch
“There’s such a hunger out there for these stories of people who found a way to get out from under that burden of hate and bitterness, and found this freedom and the grace and mercy and compassion.” - Jeanne Bishop
“I wanted to uplift these two men, these extraordinary men, these two fathers who should have been enemies and instead became these unexpected friends precisely because they were willing to see in one another that they had this common ground.” - Jeanne Bishop
“When your parents die, you go to the hilltop and you bury them. When your children die, you bury them in your heart. It’s forever. It never goes away.” - Bud Welch
“To have that redemption come from such tragedy is just a way of doing what God calls us all to do, which is to forgive others as we've been forgiven.” - Jeanne Bishop
“I thought I had a weight problem, and I didn't know the weight I was carrying was a symptom of what was lurking beneath the surface.” - Christine Carter
“I think that if you've ever overcome something in your life, I feel that part of what God calls us to do is to help someone else, even if it's just one person, help somebody else do the same.” - Christine Carter
“I think a lot of our habits that we have and a lot of our mindsets are really what's holding us hostage.” - Christine Carter
“We put ourselves last—and certainly there's something to be said about having a servant's heart—but you can never pour from an empty cup.” - Christine Carter
“It's easy to fall into that temptation of picking the things that satisfy in the moment. But those things rarely satisfy for a lifetime. I've learned to put my eyes on Christ, put my eyes on God, to say, ‘What does He want for me?’” - Christine Carter
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0:00.0 | Jesus calling September 5th. |
0:03.0 | I am your best friend as well as your king. |
0:06.0 | Walk hand in hand with me through your life. |
0:09.0 | Together we'll face whatever each day brings, pleasures, hardships, adventures, disappointments. |
0:17.3 | Nothing is wasted when it is shared with me. |
0:20.0 | I can bring beauty out of the ashes of lost dreams. |
0:23.3 | I can glean joy out of sorrow. |
0:26.3 | Peace out of adversity. |
0:28.0 | Only a friend who is also the King of Kings |
0:30.4 | could accomplish this divine alchemy. There is no other like me. |
0:35.0 | Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. Today we talk with guests who have gone |
0:40.0 | through seemingly impossible circumstances that could have derailed their lives, but instead motivated |
0:45.6 | them to use their experiences to help and inspire others. Bud Welch, Jane Bishop, and Christine Carter. |
1:02.0 | First up, April 19, 2020 marked the 25th anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing. the single most deadly act of domestic terrorism committed |
1:05.4 | on American soil to date. |
1:08.0 | Bud Welch's daughter, Julie, was among the 168 people killed in the bombing that day. As Bud plunged into grief over the loss of and and vowed to tell his parents that he didn't blame them for the loss of his daughter. |
1:24.0 | But got the chance to meet Bill McPhay three years after the bombing |
1:28.0 | and shared the moving story of that encounter when he would speak in various places around the country. |
1:33.0 | Jean Bishop, a colleague of Buds, also lost a family member to violence. |
1:37.5 | And when she heard Bud's story of forgiveness, she knew she had to write about it, |
1:42.3 | so the world could learn that if this man could forgive surely we all can |
1:47.6 | My name is Bud Welch. I grew up on a dairy farm in Central Oklahoma and I attended Catholic Elementary School, |
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