All right, well the Golf R, 2022, we've actually been encouraged by this car, the fact that it is made by Volkswagen, and that's been introduced as the 8th generation, we've driven the GTI, which I think we mostly liked.

We mostly liked, there's an interesting comparison of the GTI and the Golf R that always happens, and I know that in the Mark VII, the last generation, I couldn't really find the purpose of the Golf R, I felt like the GTI was so close, not sure why you get the Golf R.

The headline for me is, I'm swapped on this gym.

Oh, are you?

I think the Golf R starts to make a lot of sense, but it comes down to how you expect your GTI.

What's interesting about this car, because this is old news right now.

Yeah.

It's out, it's available, you can buy one.

But as far as journalist press drives go, this is old news.

But those early drives relied on different data than what we've discovered, yes.

Volkswagen has published data saying, this is a, no, I don't want anything.

No, no.

Stop it.

They said the wrong word.

They have post data stating this is 315 horsepower from a 2 liter turbocharged Ford, the 4th generation of the E-Triple 8 engine.

It's the same engine they put in everything.

For every same chassis, they make everything out of it.

It's a very impressive engine.

Yes.

And they have published with the manual transmission, it is 280 pound feet of torque, but with the DSG,

it's actually 295.

That is the stated information.

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