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Welcome back to the To the Contrary podcast. I'm Charlie Sykes, and it is Monday. And, well, is there

anything else that we really ought to be talking about other than, well, kind of you know what?

And so I'm joined by legendary former network reporter, now substack star Terry Moran. Hey, Terry, how are you?

I'm good, Charlie. Thank. That's a very kind introduction.

Well, we're both in the Midwest today. So we're both sort of, you know, kicking back your

living cabin life. I'm down in the basement here in Mechuan, Wisconsin. But we have, okay,

so we have to chew over this. There are so many different angles on all of this. The Trump

Epstein story, where he tried over the weekend to emulate Barbara Streisand,

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