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Terrorists, Defectors, Assassins: 22 Years in the CIA

The Jack Carr Channel

Jack Carr

Society & Culture

4.9 • 2.8K Ratings

🗓️ 19 February 2025

⏱️ 114 minutes

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Mike Howard is a former CIA clandestine services operative with over two decades of experience in counterterrorism, operating extensively in Asia and Africa. After leaving the Agency, he spent 16 years as the Chief Security Officer for Microsoft. Now, he shares his insights on leadership, security, and strategy through his RONIN LEADERSHIP podcast and blog. He is also the author of multiple books, including THE ART OF RONIN LEADERSHIP and the novels FULL CIRCLE and BLOOD PROMISE. His latest thriller, OMEGA DECEPTION, is available now. FOLLOW MIKE Instagram:  @mikehoward X: @roninauthor YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MikehowardLeadershipPodcast  LinkedIn: @Ronin-Leadership-Thoughts  Website: www.mikehowardauthor.com FOLLOW JACK Instagram - @JackCarrUSA  X - @JackCarrUSA Facebook - @JackCarr  YouTube - @JackCarrUSA SPONSORS CRY HAVOC – A Tom Reece Thriller https://www.officialjackcarr.com/books/cry-havoc/ Bravo Company Manufacturing Mk15 Timepiece - MOD3: https://bravocompanyusa.com/bcm-mk15-timepiece-mod-3/ and on Instagram @BravoCompanyUSA THE SIGs of Jack Carr, From True Believer: M17/M18, P365, P320, P320X-Carry Visit https://www.sigsauer.com/ and on Instagram @sigsauerinc  STACCATO HD: https://staccato2011.com/hd and on Instagram @staccato2011 Jack Carr Gear: Explore the gear here https://jackcarr.co/gear

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0:00.0

This episode of the Danger Close podcast is brought to you by Cry Havoc,

0:04.0

from New York Times number one best-selling author, Jack Carr.

0:08.0

Cry Havoc, a Tom Rees thriller. Order now.

0:18.0

And we were told by headquarters, hey, want you to meet him at the Peace Bridge between Niagara Falls, right, and Canada.

0:24.6

It was like, I harkened back to the days when I was a kid watching spy movies.

0:28.6

It was like that. It was midnight across the bridge.

0:32.6

He was being escorted. We made the switch, got him in the car.

0:56.7

For those who don't know you, police officer Oakland, into the CIA for 22 years, chief security officer for Microsoft for 16 years, and now author of both fiction and nonfiction, and you host the

1:03.9

Ronan Leadership Podcast. And I want to get into all of this, and Rick Prado, of course, connected

1:09.3

us. And what a great guy. He is. He just sent me a

1:12.7

picture, actually, of you guys diving off the Philippines on some secret boat or something back in the

1:18.0

day. Oh, yeah. That was back, oh, my God, that was probably 1990. I still had dark hair.

1:26.5

And, yeah, it was a, it was a Sigitt boat that had just been newly, you know, commissioned.

1:33.1

And we had our tech guys on it.

1:34.8

And we had about half a dozen Navy SEALs of Philippine Navy SEALs on board.

1:40.5

So we had a good time with them.

1:42.5

Nice.

1:42.8

You down south in the Southern Island chain?

1:44.7

No, we were still closer to, you know, Luzon, that area. But what was interesting was,

1:53.0

you know, you know, obviously Rick had a big diving background before being a PJ and I had

1:59.6

actually just been certified there in the Philippines

2:02.5

through the embassy and so we get on board and I remember I remember this to this day so you

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