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Terrorism and Trump: Is this the New Normal? (Maajid Nawaz) | BoF VOICES

The Business of Fashion Podcast

The Business of Fashion

Fashion & Beauty, Business, Arts

4.6770 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2017

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

Reformed jihadist, Maajid Naaz, focused on the rise of terrorism, populism and a post-Trump, post-Brexit world — by detailing his own harrowing journey. #BoFVOICES 2016

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0:00.0

I first met Majid Nawaz at the TED Global Conference in Edinburgh several years back.

0:05.7

As soon as Majid took to the stage to do his TED Talk, I was fascinated to hear his harrowing

0:11.1

stories of being radicalized in the UK, moving to Egypt, spending time in a Cairo prison,

0:18.4

and then becoming one of the world's most important voices in anti-extremism.

0:22.9

Of course, terrorism has been one of the defining themes of the past couple of years,

0:28.5

and in 2017, it's reared its ugly head again here in the UK, in Europe, and beyond.

0:36.0

So Majit's talk, terrorism and Trump,

0:39.1

is this the new normal from our voices gathering in 2016,

0:43.7

has just as much resonance today.

0:46.2

I hope you'll enjoy listening to his insights and his lessons.

0:50.4

And just a quick note,

0:51.9

Majit's talk was recorded in front of a live audience, so please forgive any audio issues.

0:57.0

I'm 15 years old, and I'm walking down the road minding my own business.

1:04.1

And I'm surrounded at the time, caught by surprise by a group of neo-Nazis in a van out in what they call packy-bashing,

1:16.6

hunting people who look like me just to target us and if they find us

1:24.6

to attack us with hammers, machetes and screwdrivers, I'm surrounded by them.

1:32.3

Grown men in their 20s, five, six, seven or eight, I've lost count, but to a 15-year-old, it makes no difference.

1:41.3

And it's incredibly intimidating.

1:44.6

I think at the time that it's the end of my life.

1:48.2

I've seen by this time four or five lost count

1:51.9

of the number of my friends who I've had to watch stabbed

1:55.1

because of the fact that they look different.

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