Terror attack in Colorado, humanitarian crisis in Gaza, and Dr. Nadine Baudot-Trajtenberg on the economic toll of the war

Unholy: Two Jews on the News

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News, Yonit Levi, Israel, Israel Podcast, Jonathan Freedland, Middle East, Jewish, Religion & Spirituality, Jews, Society & Culture

4.7 • 680 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Join our Patreon community to get access to bonus episodes, discounts on merch and more: https://bit.ly/UnholyPatreon Social links, shop, YouTube channel and more: https://linktr.ee/unholypod A terror attack strikes a peaceful protest in Colorado calling for the release of hostages, while efforts to finalise a deal between Israel and Hamas remain deadlocked. Meanwhile, humanitarian aid begins to trickle into Gaza and a series of violent, and disputed, events ends in deadly consequences for Palestinian civilians. Yonit and Jonathan discuss all that, and also step back from the frontlines to look at the economic toll of a war that has lasted more than 600 days. They are joined by Dr Nadine Baudot-Trachtenberg, former deputy governor of the Bank of Israel, for a sobering conversation on the social and financial cost of protracted conflict—borne most heavily by those sent to fight, and those left waiting at home.

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0:00.0	A violent attack in Boulder, Colorado on campaigners for the release of hostages still held in Gaza.
0:07.6	Deadly scenes at food distribution sites in Gaza.
0:11.1	And we will be talking to one of Israel's foremost economists.
0:14.9	It's unholy.
0:16.3	I'm Jonathan Friedland in London.
0:19.0	And I'm Unique Levy in Tel Aviv.
0:31.4	Thank you. Jonathan Friedland in London. And I'm Unique Levy in Tel Aviv. Unholy, Tudu's on the news.
0:34.0	Jonathan and I don't do things by half measure.
0:37.8	It seems we meet very rarely.
0:39.8	And when we do, we like an audience of hundreds of people to, you know, witness that.
0:43.8	We just don't, you know, have coffee in London.
0:46.6	We go bigger, I think.
0:49.2	We go bigger.
0:50.2	And we count down till our big London show, the first unholy live show on Sunday. As you say,
0:58.3	I mean, obviously a big deal to do a podcast live show, but what other podcasters don't also have
1:03.0	is the novelty of being in the same country. I think I was working this out. I don't think you and I
1:07.9	have been in the same room since November 2023.
1:11.8	Is that right?
1:12.7	You were in Israel.
1:13.6	Yeah.
1:13.8	Because I was in Israel a couple of months ago, and it just so happened to be just when you weren't.
1:18.1	We have not been lucky with timings, but now we are.
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