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THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

“Terrifying”: Trump’s Fury at Foes Darkens amid New Alina Habba Threat

THE DAILY BLAST with Greg Sargent

The New Republic

News, Politics

4.4800 Ratings

🗓️ 14 April 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

After President Trump raged for weeks at law firms he regards as personal enemies, a number of them just surrendered to him like falling dominoes. That Trump boasted about this on social media so conspicuously represents a dark turn: He’s warning anyone mulling resistance that it’s time to capitulate. Meanwhile, Alina Habba, a loyal Trump henchwoman who is now interim U.S. Attorney for New Jersey, launched investigations into the state’s governor and attorney general, lodging a dark threat of more to come for those who won’t do Trump’s bidding. We talked to law professor Leah Litman, author of Lawless, a new book about the Supreme Court. She reflects on whether our institutions are folding in the face of Trump’s escalating abuses, which she calls “terrifying,” and what must happen now to prevent the destruction of the rule of law in America.  Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm your host, Greg Sargent. President Donald Trump's abuses of power or escalating on multiple fronts.

0:46.0

First, Alina Haba, the very Trumpy new U.S. attorney from New Jersey, is now investigating

0:51.9

the New Jersey governor for supposedly getting in the way of deportation

0:55.3

efforts. Second, a number of major law firms have now surrendered to Trump's threats and bullying,

1:02.3

making deals with him that seem like payments of tribute to a local warlord, not something you'd

1:07.5

expect in an advanced liberal democracy. So is the big story here that our institutions are now clearly cracking in the face of flood the zone abuses of power?

1:17.3

Or is there a way through it all?

1:19.9

Today we're trying to figure all this out with law professor Leah Littman,

1:23.6

who has a new book coming out called Lawless about the Supreme Court's dissent into darkness.

1:29.7

Thanks for coming back on, Leah.

1:31.5

Thanks for having me.

1:33.0

Let's start with Alina Haba, who was previously the president's personal lawyer, now a U.S. attorney in Jersey.

1:40.0

She just announced that she's directed an investigation of the state's governor Phil Murphy

1:44.7

and the state's attorney general Matt Plattkin, both Democrats. This looks like it's a response

1:50.8

to New Jersey's policy limiting the type of assistance that state law enforcement can give

1:55.5

to federal immigration authorities. Leah, what's your reaction to all this? So I'm going to first start by looking at this

2:03.6

like a law professor. And there is this background rule of constitutional law that the federal

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