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🗓️ 11 September 2025
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Rodrigo Medellin loves bats. The Mexican conservationist has been obsessed with the often maligned creatures for over six decades. As a child, he kept blood in ice cube trays in his parents' freezer, to feed to his pet vampire bats. He went on to create Mexico City’s first ever bat festival, and to work with governments, universities, NGOs and researchers all over the world. To many, Rodrigo IS the "bat man."
Like many Mexicans, he is also fiercely proud of the country’s native spirits: tequila and mezcal. The agave spirits are hugely important for Mexico’s economy, especially in the states of Jalisco and Oaxaca. Exports of the drinks are worth billions. Tequila and mezcal have become increasingly popular in recent decades, with sales boosted by big budget celebrity-owned brands designed to appeal to the US consumer. From Kendall Jenner to George Clooney, US celebrities have been riding high on the mass market appeal of the liquor.
But the boom in these industries has had unintended consequences for Rodrigo's beloved bats. Often the agave the spirits are made from is harvested early, before the slow-growing plant can flower. This means bats cannot feed from the nectar, and critically, they can’t do their job as pollinators. This contributes to agave monocultures which are susceptible to disease and blight.
Rodrigo explains how he wanted to change the way the industry works, creating a “bat-friendly” certification for tequila and mezcal producers who leave 5% of the agave untouched, to bloom. But why have so few brands been certified, why is the programme controversial for some producers, and why are bats a tricky sell as far as conservation for many people and communities? Sarah Treanor spends time with Rodrigo in Mexico City and Oaxaca to find out.
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Image: Rodrigo Medellin holding a bat (Credit: Paul Webala)
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| 0:00.0 | A rain soaked agave field as night falls in the Mexican state of Oaxaca. |
| 0:08.2 | Mexico's iconic agave spirits tequila and tequila's older sibling mezcal are worth around |
| 0:14.2 | $10 billion globally, employing many thousands along the supply chain, a chain which often |
| 0:20.6 | leads north of the border |
| 0:21.7 | to the US consumer. I'm here to catch bats. Because this mescal producer is certified as |
| 0:29.6 | bat friendly and surprising as it may be, the health of Mexico's lucrative and beloved |
| 0:35.7 | agave spirits is tied to bats. |
| 0:38.6 | But why? |
| 0:39.5 | And why is this complicated industry so riddled with controversy? |
| 0:45.9 | I'm meeting the conservationist and bat advocate at the heart of this project to find out. |
| 0:52.1 | This is the BBC World Service. |
| 0:55.4 | I'm Sarah Trino. |
| 0:57.0 | This is Rodrigo Medellin, also called The Batman. |
| 1:01.6 | There's bats with enormous ears, with tiny ears, with huge eyes, with tiny, tiny, tiny |
| 1:07.3 | little eyes, with very long snouts, very short snouts, big, small, all kinds of bats. |
| 1:14.5 | Rodrigo loves bats. He also loves tequila and mescal. Today we have tequila and mescal. |
| 1:23.2 | Thanks to the bats, we don't have the bats, we don't have tequila. That would be a very sad world. |
| 1:29.3 | What are the issues facing the agave that these spirits are made from? |
| 1:33.2 | We have many issues and many challenges because now all the people around the world want to drink mescal. |
| 1:42.5 | This is a tragedy in the making. |
| 1:46.4 | All it takes is for one disease to hit one plant and all of your plants are going to be sick. |
| 1:52.2 | Why a booming industry can be a double-edged sword. |
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