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🗓️ 27 February 2021
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0:00.0 | Welcome back. It's episode 143 of the Hoover Institution's Law Talk podcast coming to you, as we always do, from the Streamer Festoon Faculty Lounge of the Epstein and New School of Law. |
0:19.7 | It's such a party today that we're even |
0:21.3 | allowing Richard to eat sugar. I'm your host, Troy Sennick, former White House speechwriter, |
0:26.2 | and guy who's been rolling this boulder up a hill for a decade now, and I am joined, |
0:31.3 | as always, by the Tom Forkner and Joe Rogers, Sr. of the conservative legal movement. |
0:37.3 | That's the most obscure reference I've ever used for that segment, but you guys should be honored because those are the two guys who founded Waffle House. |
0:44.2 | They are Richard Epstein, the Peter and Kirsten Bedford Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Lawrence Hitch Professor of Law at NYU, and senior lecturer at the University of Chicago. And John U, |
0:55.4 | visiting fellow at the Hoover Institution, the Emmanuel S. Heller professor of law at the |
1:00.2 | University of California, Berkeley, and former deputy assistant attorney general in the Bush |
1:05.5 | administration. And fellas, they said we'd never make it. And when I say they, I mean me. |
1:11.7 | The very first episode, the Lawtonk podcast, was released February 24th, 2011. |
1:19.0 | We have hit the 10-year mark. |
1:22.5 | You guys may be the longest relationship of my life, and I'm going to move on before I think through the implications of that. |
1:32.3 | I don't actually know what we talked about on the first show because it turns out we don't have the recording, which is to the good, I think, because you guys are both well beyond |
1:36.9 | Senate confirmation, but I'm still hanging on by a threat. I'm pretty confident Obamacare was in there |
1:43.0 | because that took up like the first five years or so of the show. |
1:46.7 | But, you know, occasionally people will ask me how the show came together. |
1:53.8 | Before I came along, you guys had done this stick together a couple of times on uncommon knowledge. |
2:00.8 | But do you remember the first time that you participated in a panel or something together publicly? |
2:06.6 | And how far back have you known each other? |
2:09.1 | Roy, Troy, I hate to be the one to break this to you, but we actually did a whole bunch of shows before you with lots of different hosts that we did test drives with. |
2:19.5 | You know, there was this one girl named Amy, Amy Barrett, I think was her, |
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