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Listener discretion is advised. I'm very interested in helping you have a conversation with my mom.

I'm not sure what kind of questions you're looking forward. I'll be with her when we do this.

Okay. I'll put it on my my cell phone. My mom does not have a cell phone. She refuses.

Okay, so she is on a landline only right?

Well, I'll tell you the background on how I found this story to begin with.

Yeah, that's my second question.

Because nobody knows about this story, which is amazing.

So, you know, when Dorothy died,

she had been babysitting a little boy who lived pretty close to her,

named Bill Strain.

And when she died, it made a really big impression on him.

He was four or five at the time, and he grew up hearing these stories.

And he remembered Dorothea's just being very beautiful and kind. He grew up and became a law enforcement officer later in life.

He became an artist. And when he retired at age 70, he became obsessed with this case.

He just really dug into the case.

I have a binder full of information that he found,

and he and his son took a couple of trips

down to a Ransis Pass to try to get more information and he died so he died last year.

I ran across his website. He had a very long blog about Dorothy and the reason I wanted to talk to your

mom and you and anybody else in the family who wants to talk about it is not to glean any sort of new details or new research, you know, what I like to do is, you know, really

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