Grief is a universal reality in our fallen world, and Paul Touches says, we can't ignore it.

He created us with tear ducks. Those tear ducks are supposed to be filled with tears

at certain times, and if we keep everything bottled up, eventually it's going to come out.

So we need to learn how to talk to the Lord in our times of grief.

This is the Reviver Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Walgman, author of A 30-day Walk with God in the Psalms.

For August 12, 2025, I'm Danegresh. Anytime you and I experience great loss, we're likely to be hit by a flood of emotions.

And let's be honest, it can be overwhelming.

In those moments, how can we make sense of our suffering?

Our guest today will help us see God's perspective.

Paul Touches is a husband, father, pastor, and author.

And for a long time, he's served as a hospice chaplain,

and he's experienced his own tidal waves of grief and sorrow.

Here's Dan to talk with him about that.

Welcome back, Paul. It's wonderful to be with you again, Dana. We had a really rich conversation yesterday about anxiety and how our approach as believers. It's just, it's a different approach.

We have powerful tools in the toolbox of our faith tradition

and the word of God that can help us fight that battle. But it's so funny to me, Paul,

I find that God allows us to face battles that build upon themselves. So whatever battle you, if you've faced a battle with

anxiety, you've been in training for something. The Lord's training you for something. And out of that

comes rich wisdom and comfort that you get to pass on to other people. You are a reservoir of that.

You've written a book, a small book for the hurting heart. The subtitle is Meditations

on Loss, Grief, and Healing. What led you? I mean, this isn't, people aren't lining up

to write on the topic of loss and grief. What led your heart to want to do this?

...