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podcast I work on. I'm Dan Clark and I commissioned factual podcasts at the BBC.

It's a massive area but I'd sum it up as stories to help us make sense of the forces shaping the world.

What podcasting does is give us the space and the time to take brilliant BBC journalism

and tell amazing compelling stories that really get behind the headlines.

And what I get really excited about is when we find a way of drawing you into a subject

you might not even have thought you were interested in.

Whether it's investigations, science, tech, politics, culture, true crime, the environment,

you can always discover more with a podcast on BBC Sounds.

You're listening to the Scrum Five Podcast with Martin Williams and Stephan Guerrero from BBC Radio Wales.

So we have a team to talk about this week, Martin.

It is not what either of us thought it would be.

No.

Which is interesting.

The sort of difficult selections have kind of gone

probably the opposite to what we thought they would.

So Josh Adams in on the wing is always gonna get a headline,

Patzel at Fly Half's gonna get a headline,

Marieti coming in off the back of not a lot of Robia,

not looking that fresh, will always get a headline.

What kind of, what's standing for you?

Firstly, I think, you know, if you think about the past four or five years,

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