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That's just one example we heard about teens just seeing Venmo exchanges between two of their

friends or five of their friends for a Dunkin Donuts charge or movie tickets and realizing,

oh my gosh, like my friends just all hung out without me. And so we started to recognize that there

were these kinds of issues that were just not part of the current conversation that were so

important to what teens were experiencing on an everyday basis. And so, you know,

Carrie and I care deeply about what teens are up against, what it looks like for adults to be

really good supporters and, you know, genuinely just teen well-being at a high level. And I think

we built just felt like we couldn't ignore the digital space. We couldn't ignore social media

if we wanted to really make a difference around these issues and teen lives.

Welcome to Hold Me Back. This episode has been quite a journey because,

for the longest time, we have wanted to do an episode strictly about T-Metal Health.

Yeah, we have. And I know we talk about it a lot, but it was something that was important and we

really just wanted to focus on it. Yep. And in the midst of our researching and preparing,

yeah, we had a bit of a surprise. Yes, we did. Our friends and comments and media let us know about

a new book that was published on the topic of teens' digital lives. Yeah, we got the book and

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