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Teenage Fundamentalists w/ Brian & Troy

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 8 June 2022

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week's guests Brian and Troy used to be members and leaders in Pentecostal megachurches in Australia. Troy, a 21-year-old member of the Assemblies of God (AOG), the precursor to the Hillsong church was drawn in by Revival Centres International, Now known as the Revival Centres Church. Troy was on the path to becoming a minister before “years of questions, inconsistencies and manipulation” overwhelmed him and caused an emotional breakdown leading to him abandon his faith. Brian became involved with the Christian City Churches denomination, today known as C3 Church Global, which you can hear about from our previous guest Emily, before being recruited by the Assemblies of God. He described his time as exhibiting “cultish type behaviour” Brian and Troy's Podcast "I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist" takes an honest & irreverent look at one of the world’s fastest-growing religious movements and has been causing a stir among its church leaders. Brian and Troy provide Rachel with some background on the history of the Australian Pentecostal movement and explain their respective reasons for becoming involved. They examine the controlling techniques these churches have employed to amass huge followings throughout the world. Rachel helps Brian and Troy unpack the emotional toll followers endure under the controlling hierarchy of the church's leadership and the existential anxiety that is the result of its unhealthy ideology. Both Brian and Troy describe their breaking points with Christianity and offer advice to those leaving high control groups. Before You Go: Rachel reiterates the point Brian made about pre-planning for support when leaving a high control group. She explains the appeal of absolutes and the lure of leaving behind existential angst for a group's perfect formula for happiness. Listen to I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist here: https://iwasateenagefundamentalist.podbean.com/ Learn more about Brian and Troy's story here: https://www.vice.com/en/article/3abyw8/leaving-the-church-makes-for-some-good-content Thanks to all of our newest Patreon supporters: Ariel Trocino, Ellen Knudson. Elena Lumby, Jonathan Suds, Kaijah Bjorklund, and Ellen Golla To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination You can help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.5

Hi, everybody.

0:15.1

This week's guests, Brian and Troy, used to be members and leaders in Pentecostal megachurches in Australia.

0:24.2

Troy, a 21-year-old member of the Assemblies of God, the precursor to the Hillsong Church,

0:30.7

was drawn in by Revival Centers International, now known as the Revival Center's Church.

0:39.7

Troy was on the path to becoming a minister before, quote, years of questions, inconsistencies, and manipulation, end quote, overwhelmed him,

0:47.4

leading to him abandoning his faith. Brian became involved with the Christian city church's

0:52.8

denomination before being recruited by the Assemblies of God.

0:57.7

Brian and Troy's podcast, I Was a Teenage Fundamentalist, focuses on the pair's religious experiences along with their guests, including me.

1:07.5

So, if you enjoy our conversation today, make sure to tune in for my appearance on their show,

1:13.7

which airs tomorrow, Thursday, June 9th. You can find the link in the show notes of this episode.

1:20.6

Here's my conversation with Brian and Troy.

1:23.1

Music I am very happy to have Troy and Brian with me today.

1:42.0

It is really wonderful to be able to meet new people, new people to me,

1:48.1

although I know that they already have a presence and a following. And I think also because

1:55.3

their stories have resonated so much with so many people. And so I am very happy to be able to meet both of you. And I'd love

2:04.1

you to take a moment to introduce yourselves. Beautiful. Thanks, Rachel. Well, I'm the Brian part of

2:09.6

Brian and Troy, I was a teenage fundamentalist podcast. So who we are is, you know, Troy and I have

2:16.7

known each other over 30 years.

2:18.8

We share an experience, I guess, and this is what led us to start the podcast of, for those

2:23.7

listeners who have listened to our podcast, we had different steps in our journeys.

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