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Teen Burglary Turns Deadly & Caught on Camera… Self-Defense or Ambush?! | The Elm Street Murders

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Hidden True Crime

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4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 November 2025

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

A retired security engineer, a small Minnesota town, and two teens who picked the wrong house on Thanksgiving Day—what happened in Byron Smith’s basement has been debated for more than a decade as one of the most chilling self-defense cases in America. In this episode of Hidden True Crime, Lauren unpacks the break-ins, the relentless harassment, the surveillance tapes, and the Thanksgiving ambush that left cousins Haile Kifer and Nick Brady dead—and sent Byron to prison for life. Was he a terrified homeowner failed by the system, or a man who crossed the line from protection to premeditated execution? We walk through the case, the trial, the missing evidence, and even Byron’s new defamation lawsuit against the lead investigator to ask the question that still divides Little Falls and beyond: where does defending your home end and murder begin? Sponsors Treat yourself or someone special to the most comfortable and innovative bras on earth this holiday season. Save 20% off sitewide at https://honeylove.com/HIDDEN About Hidden True Crime What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Some cases make us take a hard look at what people do when they're scared or angry and push

0:05.4

us to question just how far someone should be able to go when they say they're defending

0:10.4

their home. And few cases bring that debate into sharper focus than what happened in

0:16.3

Littlefield's Minnesota on Thanksgiving Day in 2012. It began the way many rural crime stories do,

0:23.9

a homeowner on edge after a series of break-ins and two teenagers who made a dangerous life-altering

0:30.1

choice. Haley Kiefer and her cousin Nicholas Brady broke into the home of 64-year-old

0:36.7

Byron David Smith, likely expecting to grab what they

0:40.2

could and get out. But what they found instead was a man waiting, a man who would later say

0:45.2

he genuinely believed he had reached his breaking point. What unfolded in Byron's basement was

0:51.7

anything but simple. And it forces us to ask, in moments of extreme

0:56.2

fear, how do we truly judge whether someone's response is proportional or excessive?

1:02.0

Prosecutors argued that this wasn't a split-second act of self-defense. They pointed to audio

1:07.6

recordings Byron had set up inside his home recordings that captured footsteps,

1:12.0

the confrontation, and the gunshots. To them, the tapes revealed deliberate actions that went

1:17.2

far beyond what the law considers reasonable force. But many people see it differently. Could fear

1:23.8

alone justify decisions that, in hindsight, seem calculated? To this day, some argue that

1:29.6

Byron was a terrified homeowner who had been repeatedly targeted, someone who reacted after

1:35.0

feeling abandoned by the system. They believe he did what anyone might do in that moment of fear,

1:40.0

maybe even what they themselves would have done. And yet, the moral lines remain blurred.

1:46.2

When does fear become justification for lethal action?

1:49.7

Since the trial, the divide around this case is never really closed.

1:53.1

Supporters say Byron should be freed and that his actions were justified.

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