What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Most of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to Off the Chain, simply the best podcast in crypto. Let's kick this thing off.

Ted Livingston is the CEO of KIC. In this conversation, we discussed building one of the most popular messaging apps in the world, the

challenges with creating sustainable business models for these products, how cryptocurrencies

could be a solution, where kick is with the regulatory battle they're currently in, and

then I play devil's advocate to throw Ted every negative argument about kick and kin I've ever

heard. I really enjoyed this conversation,

and I hope you do as well. Anthony Pompliano is a partner at Morgan Creek Digital. All opinions

expressed by Pomp or his guests on this podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the

opinions of Morgan Creek Digital or Morgan Creek Capital Management. You should not treat any opinion expressed

by Pomp as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a particular strategy,

but only as an expression of his opinion. This podcast is for informational purposes only.

All right, guys, bang, bang. I have KIC CEO, Ted Livingston here with us.

Ted, thank you so much for taking the time to come on and talk about everything you got going on.

Awesome, beer.

Thanks for having me.

For sure.

All right, before we get into the meaty, fun stuff that I think everyone is listening to this for,

let's kind of give people context on just your background, how you got started building

kick, and how we got to maybe like last two years or so when it comes to a crypto.

Sounds good.

Yeah, just kind of dig right into your background.

Sure. So I started kick over 10 years ago now. It's pretty incredible to look back.

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