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Food with Mark Bittman

Ted Genoways: How José Cuervo Marked a Turning Point in Mexico’s History

Food with Mark Bittman

Sweetness and Light

Nutrition, Arts, Food, Culture, Cooking, Health & Fitness, Society & Culture

4.9947 Ratings

🗓️ 18 June 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Journalist Ted Genoways talks to Mark about his book, Tequila Wars: José Cuervo and the Bloody Struggle for the Spirit of Mexico, which is the first biography of Cuervo; about how Cuervo was responsible for the first cartel—and what it was like when cartels were simply business collectives; about how Cuervo saw the future of Mexico; and about why tequila is at the nexus of food and power.


Read an excerpt from Tequila Wars on The Bittman Projecthttps://bittmanproject.com/how-jose-cuervo-beat-the-odds/


Listen to Ted Genoways talk about human trafficking and the meatpacking industry on Food with Mark Bittmanhttps://tinyurl.com/bde43zep


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0:00.0

Welcome to food. I'm Kate Bitman, and we are so glad that you're here with us. If you want more,

0:08.4

remember to check us out online at bitmanproject.com. We've got more than 1,500 recipes with new ones

0:14.8

added daily, plus some really wonderful food writing from some really wonderful food writers,

0:20.5

and recommendations for products

0:22.4

and more. Bitmanproject.com. And as always, email us with any questions or feedback at

0:28.7

food at markbitman.com. This week we're doing something that we've done just once or twice in the past.

0:51.3

We're having someone on for the second time, and not long after

0:55.1

we had him on the first time. Why, you might ask? Because that person, Ted Genoese, has just

1:01.2

written the very first biography of Jose Cuervo, one of the most famous names in Mexican history.

1:08.0

What perhaps added to his fame is that Cuervo famously disappeared, which awarded

1:12.8

him an aura of mystery and made him a trickier person to profile. Ted's biography is called Tequila

1:19.4

Wars, Jose Cuervo and the bloody struggle for the spirit of Mexico, and it's interesting and

1:24.9

comprehensive, and if you know Ted at all, extremely well written.

1:29.4

We published an excerpt from it on the Bitman Project last month.

1:32.6

We're linking to that in today's show notes, so be sure to check it out.

1:37.1

Ted Genoese, if you weren't able to listen to our first interview with him, which aired in April,

1:42.5

and which we're also linking to, is a senior editor

1:45.6

at the Food and Environment Reporting Network. His typical beat is the meatpacking industry,

1:51.0

which is what we talked about previously, but he took a break from that to dive deep into tequila.

1:57.0

Here he is with Mark.

1:59.6

Ted, thanks for coming back.

2:01.4

You're setting the record for person appearing most frequently closest together on food with Mark Bittman.

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