Ted Bundy for the Defense - Part Two: The Mask Cracks
Once Upon A Crime
Esther Ludlow
4.6 • 5K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
In Part Two of Ted Bundy for the Defense, we follow Ted Bundy from his first arrest in Utah through conviction, psychological evaluation, escalating murder charges, and the escape attempts that would ultimately unleash his most violent crimes.
About This Series:
Ted Bundy for the Defense examines Ted Bundy’s criminal cases through the lens of his courtroom behavior and his insistence on controlling his own fate. This series separates myth from fact, focusing on documented evidence, trial records, and survivor testimony.
Next up in Part Three:
The Chi Omega sorority house attacks, the assault on Cheryl Thomas, and the final unraveling of Ted Bundy’s carefully constructed persona.
Sources:
The Bundy Murders: A Comprehensive History, Kevin M. Sullivan, McFarland and Company, 2020 (Second Edition).
Murderland: Crime and Bloodlust in the Time of Serial Killers, Caroline Fraser, Penguin Press, 2025.
The Devil’s Defender, John Henry Browne, Chicago Review Press, 2016.
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| 0:00.0 | This podcast details true crime cases. It contains adult themes and may contain descriptions of violence. |
| 0:07.4 | It is not intended for children. Listener discretion is advised. |
| 0:19.3 | Thank you for joining me for today's episode of Once Upon a Crime. |
| 0:23.8 | I'm your host, Esther, and you're listening to Ted Bundy for the Defense, a series where we peel back the carefully constructed image of one of the most infamous serial killers in American history. |
| 0:35.7 | This isn't the Ted Bundy of myth or media shorthand. |
| 0:39.3 | It's the Ted Bundy who believed he could talk his way out of anything, even murder. |
| 0:45.3 | In this series, we examined Bundy's insistence that he was his own best attorney. |
| 0:50.3 | Not once, but three times, he rejected legal counsel and chose to represent himself in court, |
| 0:57.6 | first for aggravated kidnapping and later for murder. Bundy was convinced that his calm demeanor, |
| 1:04.1 | intelligence, and charm could persuade judges and juries that he was not the monster that the |
| 1:10.0 | evidence suggested. |
| 1:12.1 | But what unfolded in those courtrooms told a very different story. |
| 1:16.9 | This is Chapter 2 of Ted Bundy believed he was in control. |
| 1:37.9 | He believed he had already survived close calls. |
| 1:41.3 | He believed his intelligence, his ability to present himself as calm, rational, |
| 1:45.8 | and professional, would continue to shield him from serious consequences. Most of all, he believed |
| 1:52.0 | that if he spoke confidently enough and looked respectable enough, authority figures would listen. |
| 1:59.0 | On August 16, 1975, that belief was tested when Bundy was stopped by police in Granger, Utah. |
| 2:08.0 | What began as a routine encounter quickly escalated when Bundy fled from the officer. |
| 2:14.2 | After his arrest, police searched his vehicle and discovered items that were deeply unsettling, |
| 2:20.3 | handcuffs, rope, a crowbar, and other burglary tools. |
| 2:24.3 | Bundy responded the way he always did, without panic, without hesitation, and without telling the truth. |
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