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Welcome to the exponential view podcast where multidisciplinary conversations about the near future happen every week.

As an entrepreneur, investor and analyst, I've been an insider in the technology industry for more than 20 years.

And during that time, I have observed that exponentially developing technologies are changing the face of our economies, business models and culture in unexpected ways.

Now, every week I return to this question in my newsletter exponential view in this podcast and in my recent book, the exponential age.

Those of you who listen to my podcast know that the intellectual diversity of our guests is one of our strong suits.

This week's guest has quite a special heritage.

Janis Verifakis is an economist and a mathematician who serves as Greek finance minister in 2015,

pursuing what was often seen as a radical left agenda coming into conflict with the European Union.

He's been a strong advocate for a new way of thinking about the intersection between democracy, finance and the economy.

For many years, he has championed the blockchain as a mechanism for putting the control of the monetary system back in hands of the people.

In 2020, Janis released a work of speculative fiction, another now which imagines an alternative reality where mass organization has changed the world.

No more banks, no more billionaires, no more tech giants.

Like all great science fiction, it's not about the future, it's about the present.

Janis Verifakis, welcome to exponential view.

It's great to be here. Thank you so much for inviting me.

You have written several books in the past, alongside being an academic and a politician.

This is your first novel. What did you feel you could say in fiction that you couldn't say in your previous books?

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